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Old 01-08-2013, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Originally Posted by zombieApocExtraordinaire View Post
I think common sense is very inconvenient for you

If I don't want my son spending his money on alcohol and partying, I won't give him money towards food.

Why? Because even if I could track how his money is spent. Say I gave him a special credit card that only worked at grocery stores where I could track his purchases and I could be a 100% sure all my money went directly towards food. All that means is the money he'd normally spend on food, he can now spend elsewhere including alcohol. Is this not common sense?

If you're with me that abortion shouldn't be funded with tax dollars then you'd be with me cutting all funding to PPFA. Let them survive on donations and see how long they last and how much abortion they offer and how much they begin to charge for it
Using your logic.....no one should be able to avail themselves of any government subsidy. And that would include tax deductions.

Because, according to you, that would free up money that they could use to pay for an abortion.....or other "bad" things that taxpayers shouldn't have to pay for.....like alcohol, gambling, drugs, tobacco products, porn or sexual services.

Why should I pay for food stamps when that is going to free up money for the recipient to go spend on lottery tickets?

So.....where do we draw the line?
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Old 01-08-2013, 01:36 PM
 
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The numbers of induced abortions have been falling over the last 25 years.

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr60/nvsr60_07.pdf

Facts on Induced Abortion in the United States
I remember hearing that now that you mention it. But that's still a bunch of people lost (and taxpayers)...
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Old 01-08-2013, 01:41 PM
 
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Well that makes sense, if a woman is pregnant and going to planned parenthood for an abortion, they are going to get one.
That was the point. And I think it's ironic that their name is Planned Parenthood when the people who are potential parents - aren't when they leave there.
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Old 01-08-2013, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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That was the point. And I think it's ironic that their name is Planned Parenthood when the people who are potential parents - aren't when they leave there.
There is more to it than that and you know it. If you focus just on the abortions it would look that way, but if you look at the big picture of everything they do you would understand the "planned" part much more.
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Old 01-08-2013, 01:49 PM
 
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And....all of this is very misleading. Most women, even poor ones, who know they are pregnant and plan on carrying the pregnancy, will seek out a gynocologist who will perform birthing services. They will not go to PP becasue they do not provide birthing services.

Most who go to PP that already know they are pregnant.....are not plannying on carrying the pregnancy from the get go. Obviously, some change their minds.

Some, who go to PP before they realize they are pregnant, will receive minimal pre-natal care until they find a provider who will provide birthing services.
There's nothing misleading. You proved that by your post stating that women know to go there for abortions. That's what they do.

The only thing misleading is the name of their organization. They don't plan parenthood, they end parenthood.
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Old 01-08-2013, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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There's nothing misleading. You proved that by your post stating that women know to go there for abortions. That's what they do.

The only thing misleading is the name of their organization. They don't plan parenthood, they end parenthood.
They had a different original name though.


American Birth Control League - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 01-08-2013, 01:57 PM
 
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They had a different original name though.


American Birth Control League - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Then there's this from the Wiki page.

The organization promoted the founding of birth control clinics, primarily for the Black and Latino population, and encouraged women to control their own fertility.

Which is another problem I have with that group.
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Old 01-08-2013, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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That was the point. And I think it's ironic that their name is Planned Parenthood when the people who are potential parents - aren't when they leave there.
A pregnant woman is a "potential parent" but the fetus is a already a person? You should really get your propaganda straight before typing.
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Old 01-08-2013, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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A pregnant woman is a "potential parent" but the fetus is a already a person? You should really get your propaganda straight before typing.
Oh that is funny, shouldn't they already be "parents" when the woman is at the beginning of her pregnancy?
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Old 01-08-2013, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Oh that is funny, shouldn't they already be "parents" when the woman is at the beginning of her pregnancy?
No because the fetus is a nothing and has no life..remember ?
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