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Old 01-08-2013, 10:59 AM
 
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I hope folks are happy to know their hard earned money handed to welfare beneficiaries is being tossed away on hookers and booze in NY. And the democrats are all for it. I mean we don't tell police where to spend their money after all says the good communist. Can't chance losing a vote so keep the spigot open.



"The Post yesterday revealed that welfare recipients are using Electronic Benefit Transfer cards to make cash withdrawals at ATMs inside strip joints, porn shops, bars and liquor distributors — even though there were other ATMs nearby that would give them dough.
The reform bill has languished in the Assembly’s Social Services Committee, headed by Michele Titus (D-Queens).
Former Brooklyn Democratic Party boss Vito Lopez — who built a social-services empire in Bushwick — is a senior committee member.
One reform opponent, Assemblyman Richard Gottfried (D- Manhattan), compared welfare recipients to municipal employees and said the government shouldn’t dictate how the taxpayer-funded checks are spent.
“Last I checked, this is America, and if somebody wants to propose that policemen, firefighters, sanitation workers, state legislators and other people paid with government funds be restricted as to what they use their money for, let them propose it,” Gottfried said."


Sheldon Silver and Assembly Dems bottle up a bill that would prohibit welfare recipients from accessing cash for porn and booze - NYPOST.com
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Old 01-08-2013, 11:14 AM
 
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What an idiot. He doesn't know the difference between someone who works for their money and someone who doesn't..
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Old 01-08-2013, 11:17 AM
 
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I bet liberals will stay FAR, FAR AWAY from this thread. Not a peep.
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Old 01-08-2013, 11:23 AM
 
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“The speaker knows [it’s a Republican bill], and he might choose not to bring it up for a vote. And that’s deplorable,” she continued.
Sloppy and dishonest journalism. How does "he might choose not to bring it up for a vote" equal blocking it??? Attacking someone for doing something they might do in the future?? Sad.
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Old 01-08-2013, 11:25 AM
 
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Sloppy and dishonest journalism. How does "he might choose not to bring it up for a vote" equal blocking it??? Attacking someone for doing something they might do in the future?? Sad.
Maybe if you read the sloppy journalism you would understand what the real problem is??

"Republican lawmakers complained that the Assembly typically doesn’t support welfare-reform bills because its more liberal members think it would “hurt the poor,” said state Sen. Tom Libous (R-Binghamton), who pushed the bill through his chamber."
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Old 01-08-2013, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I'm of the opinion that if we are going to dole out monthly allowance to people on their debit cards then we just need to shut up about what it's spent on.

If they are really hungry they will buy food.

The system has become full of greed and corruption though and rather than tackle the problem (people getting government money they shouldn't) they instead try to tackle regulating that money.

Fix the damn problem and you won't be worrying about TANF funds spent in strip clubs or out of state food stamps being spent in Hawaii.

They are trying to regulate the corruption here people rather than fix the problem of giving away money that is not really needed.
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Old 01-08-2013, 11:30 AM
 
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I'm of the opinion that if we are going to dole out monthly allowance to people on their debit cards then we just need to shut up about what it's spent on.

If they are really hungry they will buy food.

The system has become full of greed and corruption though and rather than tackle the problem (people getting government money they shouldn't) they instead try to tackle regulating that money.

Fix the damn problem and you won't be worrying about TANF funds spent in strip clubs or out of state food stamps being spent in Hawaii.

They are trying to regulate the corruption here people rather than fix the problem of giving away money that is not really needed.
Obviously they aren't hungry if they are spending it on booze and strippers. But it's all for the children is the battle cry so the insanity marches on.
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Old 01-08-2013, 11:33 AM
 
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Maybe if you read the sloppy journalism you would understand what the real problem is??

"Republican lawmakers complained that the Assembly typically doesn’t support welfare-reform bills because its more liberal members think it would “hurt the poor,” said state Sen. Tom Libous (R-Binghamton), who pushed the bill through his chamber."
Your proof that Sheldon Silver has blocked the bill is that he might delay it in the future. Twisted logic.
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Old 01-08-2013, 11:35 AM
 
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I'm of the opinion that if we are going to dole out monthly allowance to people on their debit cards then we just need to shut up about what it's spent on.

If they are really hungry they will buy food.
And if this law passes and they want to get a lap dance, they will hit the ATM before the strip joint. I think it is stupid to block this law from going through, but really it is just feel good legislation that does nothing, as you said, to solve the underlying problem.
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Old 01-08-2013, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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On the plus side, at least this is a known state as opposed to Federal issue.

From the article:

"there is no way to track the cash assistance"

One would think it rather simple to minimally disallow all cash withdrawals from ATMs, anywhere.

Instead of reporting the outcome, is there a reason why the Post is not doing a sit down interview with those opposed to ask them to clairify why they took the position they did. At the end of the day, votes are traded amongst politians like baseball cards.
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