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Old 01-09-2013, 12:36 PM
 
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Maybe we should all get together and donate pictures of other religious icons. If they don't get equal billing on their wall of fame, then there is an issue.
Why just religious icons? They say they've put it up because He's "famous". Which He is.

Other famous people: Frank Zappa, Lizzie Borden, Tim Tebow, Tom Cruise, Homer Simpson.
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Old 01-09-2013, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Why just religious icons? They say they've put it up because He's "famous". Which He is.

Other famous people: Frank Zappa, Lizzie Borden, Tim Tebow, Tom Cruise, Homer Simpson.
Good idea!
I bet they would love a picture of Marilyn Manson to put up.
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Old 01-09-2013, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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This is the view of someone who has the privilege of having never been a minority, religious or otherwise.
How does that turn it into discrimination ?
The picture was given to them.
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Old 01-09-2013, 12:41 PM
 
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It's just no coincidence that these religious law breakers almost always come from poor, rural, nearly all white, towns.

No way in hell this law breaking would be allowed in affluent school districts where Jewish, Hindu, and atheists parents have the means to to stop this nonsense by obtaining legal representation.
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Old 01-09-2013, 12:43 PM
 
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Well interpretation today has a box of bibles left in the front office as establishing religion.

I know what that separation means but many more don't.
I've said "Well we don't have our version of the Church of England" and I get that deer in the headlights look.

People think any religious icon or symbol in a public place is an establishment of religion now.
And these people are winning.

Yeah, a couple hundred years of jurisprudence will often outweigh the average citizen's personal understanding and reading of the constitution.
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Old 01-09-2013, 12:51 PM
 
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This is the view of someone who has the privilege of having never been a minority, religious or otherwise.
Does being in the majority mean that I have to hold my tongue and can't show displeasure at religion being systematically expunged from public view and used as a scapegoat for so many of society's ills?

Like I said, if no other religious images were allowed, that's definitely not OK. But some seem to want kids to go through school completely shielded from religion, something that's unescapable in the real world. Religion exists outside of those doors and pretending it doesn't is foolish. Schools should be teaching students about religion rather than hiding it, which could lead to a better understanding of each other's beliefs and perhaps clear up misconceptions that lead to bigotry.
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Old 01-09-2013, 12:53 PM
 
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What I find deliciously ironic, is that in the frantic contortionism necessary for Christians to in some way, any way get Jesus into the school they are willing to completely devalue his status to that of being merely a "famous person" or a "famous alumnus."


This. I'd have a ton of respect for the citizen who stood up and said, "Many of us with children in the school are Christians. We believe in His teachings and believe them to be a good example for our children to follow. I hope the picture is allowed to remain to remind us all of His message of peace and brotherhood."

I'd have probably stood and applauded the parent who said that.
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Old 01-09-2013, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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It's just no coincidence that these religious law breakers almost always come from poor, rural, nearly all white, towns.

No way in hell this law breaking would be allowed in affluent school districts where Jewish, Hindu, and atheists parents have the means to to stop this nonsense by obtaining legal representation.
What law did they break ?

No one got arrested from what I read. All you have is one upset parent.
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Old 01-09-2013, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Yeah, a couple hundred years of jurisprudence will often outweigh the average citizen's personal understanding and reading of the constitution.
Ok. Congress shall make no law establishing a religion. I got that.
How does hanging a picture you received equate to that ?
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Old 01-09-2013, 12:56 PM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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Does being in the majority mean that I have to hold my tongue and can't show displeasure at religion being systematically expunged from public view and used as a scapegoat for so many of society's ills?

Like I said, if no other religious images were allowed, that's definitely not OK. But some seem to want kids to go through school completely shielded from religion, something that's unescapable in the real world. Religion exists outside of those doors and pretending it doesn't is foolish. Schools should be teaching students about religion rather than hiding it, which could lead to a better understanding of each other's beliefs and perhaps clear up misconceptions that lead to bigotry.

From a historical perspective, sure. I mean, I learned about Hanaukah and things of that nature in a PUBLIC SCHOOL. My wife, on the other hand who went to a Catholic school from Kindergarten until 8th grade did not. But the slippery slope here is how do you teach it without a bias. That is where the problem comes in. My kid has his own faith, and I wouldn't want his teacher forcing her beliefs down his throat. If it can be done from a true historical perspective, I say why not. We may learn a bit why some believe the way we do.
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