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Old 01-10-2013, 07:09 PM
 
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Isn't our new Treasury Secretary nominee dyslexic or possibly illiterate? Even Obama uses an automatic pen to sign documents, at leats the controversial ones. I always wondered if that was just a failsafe to say the new laws or decrees were not legal.
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Old 01-10-2013, 07:58 PM
 
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I will say that from my experience, most people about 35 or younger seem to have somewhat unrealistic expectations about how their lives should be, kind of a wanting their cake and eating it too mentality. Generally they're well-intentioned, but just a tad bit idealistic to the point that it interferes with their possibilities for success at times. I'm 31, I'm allowed to say this (in full disclosure, I see this attitude in myself as well.)

On the other hand, there seems to be a fairly large contingent of mostly older (I would say 50+) people who think that those under 35 should suffer for no reason whatsoever. These people ignore any negative things they did when they were younger, and gloss over any positive things that people 35 and under contribute. They want these young people to work their tails off while getting nothing in return, while mocking their maturity, attitudes, and decision-making. If they're actually concerned about how younger people are turning out, maybe instead of shirking their responsibilities, they should mentor these younger folk to help make them more successful.
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Old 01-10-2013, 09:07 PM
 
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outsourcing their childrens jobs- As opposed to what? Who is going to pay a premium just because it was made in the USA? Certainly not the rest of the world.
No matter how many times something is said, it's still a lie. Way to have no pride in American made products.

If you actually adjust for inflation rates, products (e.g. TVs) made decades ago in the USA are priced about the same as products today made in China. Not to mention the quality of many products made overseas is much lower, causing the customer to go out and buy again, in the long run not saving money.

But back to topic. This thread is just to bash millennials. Arrogant and entitled people exist in all generations.
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Old 01-10-2013, 09:09 PM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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We have oversold the self-esteem movement.

Study shows college students think they're more special than ever...even those that can't read or write and barely study | Mail Online

We are setting the current generation of college students to be dissatisfied with their lives. These kids need to learn that sometimes believing you can do something is not enough; you've got to work at it and have the ability/skills to begin with. This comes from the everybody is a winner and everyone is equal culture that is in ours schools and our society. Learning to accept disappointment and learning how to overcome failures are two of the most important things a person can learn and are the least painful when learned in childhood. When we don't allow them to experience these things at a young age, we are failing our children.
They'll come back to earth when they have to work half their lives at crappy jobs to pay the bills they built up in college.

The School of Hard Knocks is particularly good at turning out graduates.
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Old 01-10-2013, 09:45 PM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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But back to topic. This thread is just to bash millennials. Arrogant and entitled people exist in all generations.
No it's not. I have taught well over 20 years and watched the change. More than anything it has been amazing to watch the change in parents' view of what the function of a parent in the development of a child should be. The problem is really about parents giving children what they want instead of what they need. Children need to fail things, children need to lose, children need to be disappointed, children need to feel hurt, children need to suffer a little in order to figure out how you get past it and overcome setbacks in order to move on. They need to do it as children while they still have arms waiting to hug them, soft laps to sit on, unconditional love, easy forgiveness, and while the stakes aren't so high that they can become insurmountable. When a person encounters these things for the first time as an adult it is much harder to accept and society has far less patience and compassion for your problems.
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Old 01-10-2013, 09:52 PM
 
Location: California
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I will say that from my experience, most people about 35 or younger seem to have somewhat unrealistic expectations about how their lives should be, kind of a wanting their cake and eating it too mentality. Generally they're well-intentioned, but just a tad bit idealistic to the point that it interferes with their possibilities for success at times. I'm 31, I'm allowed to say this (in full disclosure, I see this attitude in myself as well.)

On the other hand, there seems to be a fairly large contingent of mostly older (I would say 50+) people who think that those under 35 should suffer for no reason whatsoever. These people ignore any negative things they did when they were younger, and gloss over any positive things that people 35 and under contribute. They want these young people to work their tails off while getting nothing in return, while mocking their maturity, attitudes, and decision-making. If they're actually concerned about how younger people are turning out, maybe instead of shirking their responsibilities, they should mentor these younger folk to help make them more successful.
I agree. And the best part is the oldsters raised the youngsters so....

And I speak as a 50+ and I have young adult children. I know what I did.
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Old 01-11-2013, 04:08 AM
 
Location: Volunteer State
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No it's not. I have taught well over 20 years and watched the change. More than anything it has been amazing to watch the change in parents' view of what the function of a parent in the development of a child should be. The problem is really about parents giving children what they want instead of what they need. Children need to fail things, children need to lose, children need to be disappointed, children need to feel hurt, children need to suffer a little in order to figure out how you get past it and overcome setbacks in order to move on. They need to do it as children while they still have arms waiting to hug them, soft laps to sit on, unconditional love, easy forgiveness, and while the stakes aren't so high that they can become insurmountable. When a person encounters these things for the first time as an adult it is much harder to accept and society has far less patience and compassion for your problems.

what she said!
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Old 01-11-2013, 04:17 AM
 
Location: Earth
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So the Millennials see work as a two way deal. They give up their time and the company provides a salary and decent working conditions. No wonder the companies are angry. An employee thinking of themselves before worshipping good old corporate is blasphemy.
Glad to see this happening again.

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They won't be feeling good when they inherit Obammies mountain of debt. I find it funny actually, they worship the ground of the man who has just chained them to a future of unsustainable debt and eventually much higher taxes. There is justice in this world. Sometimes, you just have to be patient.
Gotta love the racial overtone of this post.

80 years of debt and it's all Obama's fault.
Sure it is.
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Old 01-11-2013, 04:26 AM
 
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I believe someone else on the forum did. I don't take credit for it.
It was Emerald Maiden, we're all free to use it.
She rawks!
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Old 01-11-2013, 04:32 AM
 
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Isn't our new Treasury Secretary nominee dyslexic or possibly illiterate? Even Obama uses an automatic pen to sign documents, at leats the controversial ones. I always wondered if that was just a failsafe to say the new laws or decrees were not legal.
You can't be serious.
Oh yes, you can.
"Automatic" pens have been used for decades.
Geez, I saw it on a learning channel when I was a child.

Nice way to go off-topic, though.
Kudos.
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