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Old 05-26-2013, 10:48 AM
 
Location: CA
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Not to worry - high spend rail will take more $$$ - or CalPERS, or maybe we can pay some ultra-extended unemployment.... or maybe some 'make work' programs.....

California high-speed rail costs soar again -- this time just for planning - San Jose Mercury News
"I think we're just going to burn through the money without ever really seeing a project," said Assemblywoman Diane Harkey, R-Dana Point, who's tried and failed repeatedly to halt the project, which has a $50 billion funding shortfall. "The money is burning a hole in our pocket and we're just spending it, and everybody is taking a piece of the pie."

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Old 05-26-2013, 10:52 AM
 
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At first glance, the situation should be welcome news in a state overwhelmingly controlled by Democrats, who have spent much of their time slashing programs they support.
Oh so it worked.

Cool.
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Old 05-26-2013, 10:59 AM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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California has a new budget problem - what to do with its' surplus:

"California Faces a New Quandary, Too Much Money

LOS ANGELES -- After years of grueling battles over state budget deficits and spending cuts, California has a new challenge on its hand: too much money. An unexpected surplus is fueling an argument over how the state should respond to its turn of good fortune.

The amount is a matter of debate, but by any measure significant: between $1.2 billion, projected by Gov. Jerry Brown, and $4.4 billion, the estimate of the Legislature's independent financial analyst. The surplus comes barely three years after the state was facing a deficit of close to $60 billion.

At first glance, the situation should be welcome news in a state overwhelmingly controlled by Democrats, who have spent much of their time slashing programs they support. After last November's elections, the party has two-thirds majorities in the Assembly and the Senate, relegating Republicans almost completely to the sidelines..."


California Faces a New Quandary, Too Much Money

Ken
I'm sure that our good azzembly azzholes and Gov Brown will use it to fund more benefits for illegal immigrants and their kids.
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Old 05-26-2013, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Default California has a new budget problem...

Darn that Jerry Brown!

Meanwhile, here in Texas...

Texas Budget Crisis | Educate For Texas

Maybe Governor "Moonbeam" could school our teabagger Perry on how to do it the right way.
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Old 05-26-2013, 11:05 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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I'm always amazed that rather than admit you were wrong, you come back and say something thats even more wrong to justify your mixed up sense of economics

Most of California had positive GDP Growth, just like the rest of the nation,
LOL

What did I say that was 'wrong'? I said more or less what you JUST SAID:

"...the fact is the US economy in general is on the rebound and California is no exception."



Ken

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Old 05-26-2013, 11:21 AM
 
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It appears the bulk of this "surplus" has more to do with the 2012 capital gains stampede not the economy.
(What happened to all those California millionaires that wanted to pay higher taxes???)

Anyway, sounds like Moonbeam is on the right track.
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Old 05-26-2013, 11:30 AM
 
Location: North America
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Easy, any outstanding debt that they have, pay it off. California cannot operate like the federal government can, it is not the same institution. Then they can take that money and rebuild all of their infrastructure, especially since that is earthquake country
Actually, now is the time to lever up the balance sheet and borrow like crazy.

California can lock in low rates and borrow as much as $400 billion.

The money can be used for state social programs.

Win win.
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Old 05-26-2013, 11:31 AM
 
Location: North America
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Darn that Jerry Brown!

Meanwhile, here in Texas...

Texas Budget Crisis | Educate For Texas

Maybe Governor "Moonbeam" could school our teabagger Perry on how to do it the right way.
Rick Perry has never presided over a budget surplus.

Jobs are leaving Texas and heading for California.

It is easier to be an employer in California.
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Old 05-26-2013, 11:38 AM
 
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Originally Posted by LordBalfor View Post
California has a new budget problem - what to do with its' surplus:

"California Faces a New Quandary, Too Much Money

LOS ANGELES -- After years of grueling battles over state budget deficits and spending cuts, California has a new challenge on its hand: too much money. An unexpected surplus is fueling an argument over how the state should respond to its turn of good fortune.

The amount is a matter of debate, but by any measure significant: between $1.2 billion, projected by Gov. Jerry Brown, and $4.4 billion, the estimate of the Legislature's independent financial analyst. The surplus comes barely three years after the state was facing a deficit of close to $60 billion.

At first glance, the situation should be welcome news in a state overwhelmingly controlled by Democrats, who have spent much of their time slashing programs they support. After last November's elections, the party has two-thirds majorities in the Assembly and the Senate, relegating Republicans almost completely to the sidelines..."

California Faces a New Quandary, Too Much Money

Ken

It think Democrats and liberals make a mistake when they think that conservatives care about policy outcomes.

conservatives don't give a damn about public policy. conservatives are having a philosophical discussion about what it means to be a real American. They want to shape society around that philosophy.

So California having a budget surplus is meaningless to conservatives because California in their minds with its ethnic diversity, and large Democratic elected majority represents all that is wrong America and what it means to be a real American, policy successes be damned.
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Old 05-26-2013, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Central Texas
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Easy, any outstanding debt that they have, pay it off. California cannot operate like the federal government can, it is not the same institution. Then they can take that money and rebuild all of their infrastructure, especially since that is earthquake country
But that isn't what they will do.

They will find creative ways to spend it. They won't reform the tax structure in any way.
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