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Old 01-10-2013, 02:02 PM
 
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Two years after leftist Jerry Brown took over, California has a balanced budget - something that eluded Arnold for years. How did they do it? Well, it was a BALANCED approach of higher revenues and reduced spending. Revenues grew on an improved economy (thanks, Obama!) and tax increases approved by voters.

Gov. Brown: California's Budget Deficit Is Gone!
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Old 01-10-2013, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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Amazing, huh? Common sense once again proves the right wing wrong.
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Old 01-10-2013, 02:06 PM
 
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No they don't you fabricators!
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Old 01-10-2013, 02:16 PM
 
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Interesting. Here is another link, which talks more about the changes in the university system:

Capitol Alert: Gov. Jerry Brown: California's budget deficit is gone

"As part of his plan, Brown will demand each system cap the number of classes that students can take at 150 percent of what is necessary to complete most degrees - 270 quarterly units at UC and 180 semester units at CSU. That cap will shrink further after two years. Students could continue taking classes but would have to pay full price rather than the subsidized in-state rates. The governor believes this will force more students to finish on time and free up resources."

Do we have any California people who can interpret said paragraph? Units?
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Old 01-10-2013, 02:18 PM
 
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Saving the banks or the states was never in doubt. Of course they can be saved, so long as you do so at any cost to the citizens. Illinois was saved too. Not the citizens though, just the state.
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Old 01-10-2013, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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Interesting. Here is another link, which talks more about the changes in the university system:

Capitol Alert: Gov. Jerry Brown: California's budget deficit is gone

"As part of his plan, Brown will demand each system cap the number of classes that students can take at 150 percent of what is necessary to complete most degrees - 270 quarterly units at UC and 180 semester units at CSU. That cap will shrink further after two years. Students could continue taking classes but would have to pay full price rather than the subsidized in-state rates. The governor believes this will force more students to finish on time and free up resources."

Do we have any California people who can interpret said paragraph? Units?
Not a college grad, eh? Each class has a certain number of units depending upon how many classroom hours it takes. So people who are trying to double major or get multiple minors can end up taking up to twice as many units as is strictly necessary to graduate. They're going to cap this so that each student can only take up to 150% of the units needed to graduate before they get forced out. That means there will be a lot less lingering in the system just taking classes because you're interested instead of because they're needed to graduate. This has both ups and downs but one of the major ups is students get in and out of the university system faster and so suck up fewer public subsidies per person.
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Old 01-10-2013, 02:39 PM
 
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Not a college grad, eh? Each class has a certain number of units depending upon how many classroom hours it takes. So people who are trying to double major or get multiple minors can end up taking up to twice as many units as is strictly necessary to graduate. They're going to cap this so that each student can only take up to 150% of the units needed to graduate before they get forced out. That means there will be a lot less lingering in the system just taking classes because you're interested instead of because they're needed to graduate. This has both ups and downs but one of the major ups is students get in and out of the university system faster and so suck up fewer public subsidies per person.
Students can also go over the normal amount of units by switching from non-science degrees to science degrees. If you want to be say a bio major but don't decide until you are a junior and haven't taken any prep work it will take you 4 more years to graduate, not 2. The prep work alone is 2 years and at least at our school, no way to speed it up based on prereqs. Or they transfer to the UC having only taken IGETC (gen ed) and want to be a science major. That student should be done in 2 years but takes 4.
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Old 01-10-2013, 02:47 PM
 
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Two years after leftist Jerry Brown took over, California has a balanced budget - something that eluded Arnold for years. How did they do it? Well, it was a BALANCED approach of higher revenues and reduced spending. Revenues grew on an improved economy (thanks, Obama!) and tax increases approved by voters.

Gov. Brown: California's Budget Deficit Is Gone!
Why did you omit to mention the spending cuts he made to social services, schools etc. and the cap on spending on healthcare etc?

I think they made a good balance of decisions considering the dire condition the state is in.
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Old 01-10-2013, 02:48 PM
 
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Amazing, huh? Common sense once again proves the right wing wrong.
Glad to hear you approve of Mr. Browns billions in cuts to social services, healthcare, schools etc etc etc.

Some taxation, some cuts and voila....a balanced budget. Who knew?
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Old 01-10-2013, 02:52 PM
 
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Two years after leftist Jerry Brown took over, California has a balanced budget - something that eluded Arnold for years. How did they do it? Well, it was a BALANCED approach of higher revenues and reduced spending. Revenues grew on an improved economy (thanks, Obama!) and tax increases approved by voters.

Gov. Brown: California's Budget Deficit Is Gone!
Isn't the budget being balance based on projected revenue? Which CA has severely overestimated in past years?

Improved economy? I don't call more welfare recipients than employed workers an "improved" anything.
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