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Old 05-22-2013, 12:53 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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The NRA works for the gun manufacturers and gun sellers.

The NRA's goals are to keep the government from making studying gun violence and possibly holding gun manufacturers and sellers responsible, to get people to buy more guns, and to keep Congress from investigating gun manufacturers and gun sellers.

Any action that the NRA perceives to threaten their business model, they can't tolerate.
so its all about business or could it be they stand for the civil right that defends all others...you know nothing about the NRA, it must be sad to not be able to think for yourself and let the morons at MSNBC do all your thinking for you.
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Old 05-22-2013, 01:00 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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cars vs guns

if we treat guns like cars, it would be awesome..

1- The private sale of a vehicle does not have to be reported to the state
2- A motor vehicle sale does not require a criminal background check
3- There is no limit to the capacity of horsepower a vehicle may have
4- A person can legally own a vehicle at any age
5- A vehicle can be operated in public as early as 16
6- There is no waiting period to buy a car
7- You can buy as many cars you want in a month
8- Students are allowed to bring their cars to school

9- There are no “car free zones”
10- Politicians do not create laws that ban the legal ownership of specific models of cars
11- Politicians do not ban cosmetic features on cars
12- Politicians do not regulate how much gas you can put in your car
13- People diagnosed with a mental illness can buy a car
14- People diagnosed with a mental illness can drive a car
15- People with a criminal record can buy a car
16- People with a criminal record can drive a car
17- Mayor Bloomberg does not require you ask him permission to use a car in NYC
18- Rahm Emmanuel does not advise banks to blackmail car manufacturers
19- It does not take 3 months to begin driving once you have passed your test
20- Children are allowed to bring toy cars to school
21- Schools do not suspend students for making driving gestures with their hands
20- You are not required to provide your fingerprints upon acquiring your drivers license
23- You can make any alteration to your vehicle without having to get approval from the ATF
24- You don’t have to go through the ATF to get a muffler for your car
25- A drivers license will permit you to drive anywhere on the continent (even NYC)
26- No restrictions for “high capacity fuel tanks”
27- The media has not assigned a “behavior type” to certain vehicles in hopes of turning public favor against them
28- You are not required to lock up your car by law
29- MSNBC does not edit video to make drivers look like criminals
30- Vehicular laws do not violate my constitutional rights
31- Obama does not advise doctors to ask patients if they own a car
32- When there is a terrible drunk driving accident, congress does not pass laws on the size of rims you can have
33- No one correlates strict driving laws with vehicular deaths
34- No one complains that a car involved in vehicular homicide came from out of state
35- The government does not prevent civilians to own vehicles as it contracts thousands for itself
36- San Diego Police are not proposing a plan to end civilian driving in a generation
37- The media actually owns cars, and are capable of speaking factually about them
38- Politicians actually own cars, and are capable of speaking factually about them
39- Cars don’t kill people, drivers kill people
40- You can buy a car “just for fun”
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Old 05-22-2013, 01:16 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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what do you have to fear from a background check unless you are a criminal? I don't understand how anyone in their right mind could be opposed to background checks and waiting periods when buying a gun. do many members of the NRA have criminal backgrounds? then I could see why they would be opposed to it.

I would take it a step further and require gun owners to be licensed. you need a license to drive a car but any idiot can legally own a gun?

No one opposes the concept of background checks. It's the inability to enforce it that leads people to oppose it. If it can't be enforced, it shouldn't be a law.

As far as a license for gun ownership and your comparison to car? Well, you are not legally required to have a license to operate a car on private land. I can go drive in my fields all day long without a license and it's perfectly legal. Second, you don't have a "right" to own or drive a car. That is a privilege granted to you buy the government. However, you do have the right to own a firearm and that right "shall not be infringed"....therefore, a special amount of care and consideration must be taken when considering measures to limit actual rights.
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Old 05-22-2013, 01:31 AM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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Why do they oppose waiting?

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Old 05-22-2013, 01:51 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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Why do they oppose waiting?

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yes if we stand with reason, logical, and common sesen we must be greedy..that is your only argument, we dont care, or we are greedy..you are wrong, we are right we have won you have lost..
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Old 05-22-2013, 06:48 AM
 
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yes if we stand with reason, logical, and common sesen we must be greedy..that is your only argument, we dont care, or we are greedy..you are wrong, we are right we have won you have lost..
Yep!

Don't forget we are racist, haters....blah, blah, blah........this is the left, does as we say not as we do....

You know Di-fi......If someone is going to try and take me out, I want to take them out with me....

Or

I carried my gun into hospital....woopppssssssssssssss......

Signed diane feinstien....
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Old 05-22-2013, 07:43 AM
 
Location: San Diego California
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and what if your BF or husband (if you're a female) has a violent criminal record, walks into a gun store to buy a gun so he can shoot you with it? should he be allowed to do so without a background check?
Then you should have chosen a better mate.
He could take you out just as easily with a baseball bat or a knife.
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Old 05-22-2013, 08:15 AM
 
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and what if your BF or husband (if you're a female) has a violent criminal record, walks into a gun store to buy a gun so he can shoot you with it? should he be allowed to do so without a background check?
Who is advocating to get rid of the current NICS background check system that he would have to pass in order to get this gun? If he buys it at a gun store he will have to pass a background check. Only private sales are not subject to background checks. There is no way to enforce private sale background checks without a central database. (Gun Registration).
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Old 05-22-2013, 11:57 AM
 
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I have always had to show my driver's license when transferring title on a vehicle.

Always.

Most recently this past February.
I call B.S. They may have ASKED you to show your license. I am asked many times and I reply, why?

They say they need a PICTURE ID, then I show them something else.

Please tell us what state you are in and the laws for that state for transferring a title.
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Old 05-22-2013, 12:00 PM
 
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what do you have to fear from a background check unless you are a criminal? I don't understand how anyone in their right mind could be opposed to background checks and waiting periods when buying a gun. do many members of the NRA have criminal backgrounds? then I could see why they would be opposed to it.

I would take it a step further and require gun owners to be licensed. you need a license to drive a car but any idiot can legally own a gun?
Where do they state that they are against background checks?

We already have background checks.
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