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Old 01-11-2013, 10:56 AM
 
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Did anyone notice that Biden was operating off the notion that a "community policing presence" in schools was OK "if they want it"? This is a very important caveat. No one is stopping a local school district from placing armed police officers in schools. What was not apparent from Boxer's request was that of a FEDERAL acknowledgement of armed police in all schools.

That's an important caveat to know. Boxer is not proposing anything extraordinary here, and Biden knows it. That's why he's receptive.

Details matter.

 
Old 01-11-2013, 11:00 AM
 
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I never said I did not support it, and I also never said I support it now that Obama supports it.

When NRA raised the idea, I questioned the cost of such action, and I still have the same question. I think it would e very expensive, and I also think it would be Top-10 most boring jobs in the world, considering there is 99.9% change a police officer can sit at a school for 20 years and never do anything. As a matter of fact I predict that within a year people will begin to question if those police officers time would be better spent preventing crime on the streets where vast majotity of crime takes place.
You apparently don't know what is going on in school. Besides shooting, there are a whole bunch of things a police officer can do.

Bullying, drug, alcohol, porn, sex, sexting, fights, gang, theft... It's a long list.
 
Old 01-11-2013, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Vermont
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This might be the only economic stimulus program that the current crop of R's would support.
 
Old 01-11-2013, 11:14 AM
 
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Did anyone notice that Biden was operating off the notion that a "community policing presence" in schools was OK "if they want it"? This is a very important caveat. No one is stopping a local school district from placing armed police officers in schools. What was not apparent from Boxer's request was that of a FEDERAL acknowledgement of armed police in all schools.

That's an important caveat to know. Boxer is not proposing anything extraordinary here, and Biden knows it. That's why he's receptive.

Details matter.
Its a floater. they tossed it out before their final recommendations come out to see how it plays before they commit any further.
 
Old 01-11-2013, 11:18 AM
 
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I never said I did not support it, and I also never said I support it now that Obama supports it.

When NRA raised the idea, I questioned the cost of such action, and I still have the same question. I think it would e very expensive, and I also think it would be Top-10 most boring jobs in the world, considering there is 99.9% change a police officer can sit at a school for 20 years and never do anything. As a matter of fact I predict that within a year people will begin to question if those police officers time would be better spent preventing crime on the streets where vast majotity of crime takes place.
I believe this is the concession the NRA got in their little meeting. There will be "something" done no matter what. So to make the NRA crowd happy they say here is your armed guard and to make the gun grabbers happy they say here is your assault weapons ban brought back. Neither will amount to anything but by golly "something" got done.
 
Old 01-11-2013, 11:25 AM
 
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Its a floater. they tossed it out before their final recommendations come out to see how it plays before they commit any further.
I don't think having a cop sitting in every school will be done. Like finn said how boring would that get and it's a waste of manpower. They way it works here there is one is "stationed" on the jr/sr high campus. They double as the DARE oinker and they go around to the other grade schools to do their DARE nonsense periodically to keep em busy. That is when they aren't eating donuts, reading the paper or surfing the web. I don't see anything really wrong with it but it should be up to the folks who pay the taxes to pay for it which means it should be voted on locally IMO. If the fed wants to kick in so be it but I don't see why they would have to. Of course its "for the children" so they will fall over each other voting yes to save the children. They do every time. That fed money dries up and it ends up on the backs of the local folks in the end.
 
Old 01-11-2013, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Florida
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You apparently don't know what is going on in school. Besides shooting, there are a whole bunch of things a police officer can do.

Bullying, drug, alcohol, porn, sex, sexting, fights, gang, theft... It's a long list.
Those schools with rampant drug and alcohol use, gangs etc can address those problems indivually. We don't need a cop in every school to fight a problem which exists only in few schools.
 
Old 01-11-2013, 12:37 PM
 
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Those schools with rampant drug and alcohol use, gangs etc can address those problems indivually. We don't need a cop in every school to fight a problem which exists only in few schools.
I'd consider a police officer getting and staying in touch with his community to be a positive thing.
 
Old 01-11-2013, 12:38 PM
 
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Wow NOT ONE NEGATIVE COMMENT!
But when a conservative suggested this they were jumped all over on how wrong it was!
 
Old 01-11-2013, 12:39 PM
 
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Why the hell is Biden meeting with the Video Game industry?
They are going to ban violent video games..... hadn't you heard?

The only thing to ponder is how much will it cost to install a donut shop in every school in America.

That will give the true meaning of a bake sale for both pencils and cops..
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