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Old 01-11-2013, 09:02 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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What does the man's occupation have to do with anything?

I asked you if you wanted to ban the Bushmaster AR-15 semi-automatic rifle.

Well, do you?
Well you want a blanket statement and no I do not think everyone shouldn't have access to a semi-automatic weapon, I am fine with a police officer having access to one. If you want to have access to that kind of gun, join a police force or the military.
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Old 01-11-2013, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Well you want a blanket statement and no I do not think everyone shouldn't have access to a semi-automatic weapon, I am fine with a police officer having access to one.
Why a cop but not another citizen?

Once again, what does a person's occupation have to do with anything?
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Old 01-11-2013, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, California
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Why a cop but not another citizen?

Once again, what does a person's occupation have to do with anything?
Because a cop is an officer of the law and is his or her job to uphold it. Be they part of a SWAT team or a special unit doing a raid on a drug house or whatever.

Cops have a legit reason to use them. Citizenry, however, do not.
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Old 01-11-2013, 09:08 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Because a cop is an officer of the law and is his or her job to uphold it. Be they part of a SWAT team or a special unit doing a raid on a drug house or whatever.

Cops have a legit reason to use them. Citizenry, however, do not.
Explain, please.

How is a cop using a Bushmaster AR-15 rifle "upholding the law"?

Isn't it every citizens job to uphold the Constitution, whereas it is the government's job to secure our unalienable rights?

I think that you have things backwards, and have a warped idea of liberty, something that as a sailor, you were supposed to defend.
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Old 01-11-2013, 09:12 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, California
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Explain, please.

How is a cop using a Bushmaster AR-15 rifle "upholding the law"?

Isn't it every citizens job to uphold the Constitution
It depends on what situation the cop in question uses the rifle. Say it's the only gun available to him somehow, someway during a shootout - I don't think anyone would have any objections to him using it to get the hell out of there.

No it's not every citizens job, but that's debatable and is an entirely different subject matter not meant for this thread.
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Old 01-11-2013, 09:15 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Why a cop but not another citizen?

Once again, what does a person's occupation have to do with anything?
Well if you can't tell the difference between an officer and a citizen, then maybe you shouldn't be allowed to have such complicated weaponry.
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Old 01-11-2013, 09:19 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Well if you can't tell the difference between an officer and a citizen, then maybe you shouldn't be allowed to have such complicated weaponry.
Why should there be a difference?

Cops are not above the law - and they are most certainly not a "higher class" than anyone else.

This isn't Caste System India.

In America - everybody is equal under the law - and we have a constitution which prohibits the right of people to keep and bear arms from being infringed.
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Old 01-11-2013, 09:21 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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It depends on what situation the cop in question uses the rifle. Say it's the only gun available to him somehow, someway during a shootout - I don't think anyone would have any objections to him using it to get the hell out of there.

No it's not every citizens job, but that's debatable and is an entirely different subject matter not meant for this thread.
O.K., I certainly won't disagree here, IF such were the circumstances.

But how often do you suppose that a cop is only armed with a Bushmaster AR-15 semi-automatic rifle?
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Old 01-11-2013, 09:21 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, California
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Why should there be a difference?

Cops are not above the law - and they are most certainly not a "higher class" than anyone else.

This isn't Caste System India.

In America - everybody is equal under the law - and we have a constitution which prohibits the right of people to keep and bear arms from being infringed.
...dude. He's talking about outward appearance, as in the uniform.

No more, no less.
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Old 01-11-2013, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, California
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O.K., I certainly won't disagree here, IF such were the circumstances.

But how often do you suppose that a cop is only armed with a Bushmaster AR-15 semi-automatic rifle?
Who knows and that's besides the point.

It's up to the cop in question to justify his or her use of such a weapon if or when he or she decides to use it.

That's what all the paperwork is for - credibility and to provide a justification for whatever events took place.
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