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Old 01-12-2013, 09:00 AM
 
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The AR-15 was designed for military use, they are by no means the only gun that should not be in the hands of civilians. I am not question that hunting rifles are deadly, just semi-automatic weapons intended for military use, I don't really care what you can manufacture, build or redsign, just what the OP posted.

Enough with the scary weapons comments, really boring at this point.
Ah, because the discussion is over your head, you find it boring.
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Old 01-12-2013, 09:02 AM
 
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What does the AR in the AR-15 stand for? Assault Rifle, yes?

So would that not lend credence to the claim that the AR-15 is indeed an Assault Weapon?

I'm not a gun expert and I never particularly cared for the guns I had to use while in the military. I know both how to operate and handle a 9MM and a M-16, but I don't really like them.

This whole gun debate is boring anyway. Everyone just give it a rest please.
Just like the Stimulus Bill was supposed to "stimulate" the economy, which it DIDN'T!
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Old 01-12-2013, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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I have not read this post yet. I am not anti gun for a couple reasons. I was a sharpshooter in an Israeli infantry unit so i have experience with "assault weapons" i dont know why i used quotes thats what they are. An ar 15 is made to kill people in an offensive nature. I cant think of 1 reason why any civilian would NEED one. Not one. I'm not saying they should be banned but we need to be honest. I understand Pistol, shotgun, hunting rifle but again I cant think of any reason one would need an assault rifle
My BS detector is flashing.

"718native" (718 is a NYC area code) is saying that they've served in the Israeli military? So were you born in NYC, or not? If so, how did you end up serving in Israel?

I'm not saying you're lying, but it's awfully suspicious, and if you want people to believe you, you're going to have to explain that inconsistency. If you can't do that satisfactorily, then I (and probably a number of others) will have to assume that you lied about it to give yourself some credibility about your position.
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Old 01-12-2013, 09:19 AM
 
Location: SW MO
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Too funny. I have a Ruger Mini-14 ranch rifle with a short barrel, composite stock and Picatinny rail for sighting devices. It is, in acuality, nothing less than a semi-automatic carbine that accepts 20-30 round magazines of NATO .223/5.56, same as the "assault rifles" the left is wringing its hands about, but doesn't have a bayonet stud or flash suppressor and look "evil" so it isn't considered one.
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Old 01-12-2013, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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What does the AR in the AR-15 stand for? Assault Rifle, yes?
No. Do some research. The wiki article on it (top of the list of a google search for 'AR-15') explains it.

"The AR-15 was first built by ArmaLite ... The 'AR' in AR-15 comes from the ArmaLite name."

Sheesh.

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I'm not a gun expert
No kidding. You're apparently also not an expert in how to use the Internet, how to debate, how to analyze information, how to base an opinion on facts...
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Old 01-12-2013, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Exactly...Shoot a deer anywhere but in the head with a .223 and there would be very little usable meat left...The muzzle velocity is so high that the bullet fragments on entry and goes off on several different directions ruining most of the animal.
I'm not a hunter, but with similar muzzle velocities on a 30-06 (very common deer rifle) and a larger projectile, how does that compute? Larger projectile + same muzzle velocity = higher energy on impact. How can a .223 be bad for deer hunting because of the energy it carries but a 30-06, which carries more energy, be good?

It doesn't make sense. Also, if you google 'ar-15 deer hunting' you'll find that plenty of people hunt with a .223. Generally, I think people prefer larger bore rifles, though. Again, that doesn't jibe with what you said above.
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Old 01-12-2013, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Too funny. I have a Ruger Mini-14 ranch rifle with a short barrel, composite stock and Picatinny rail for sighting devices. It is, in acuality, nothing less than a semi-automatic carbine that accepts 20-30 round magazines of NATO .223/5.56, same as the "assault rifles" the left is wringing its hands about, but doesn't have a bayonet stud or flash suppressor and look "evil" so it isn't considered one.
Your Mini-14 will almost certainly be on Feinstein's ban list, based on the info she's released about it so far.
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Old 01-12-2013, 09:47 AM
 
Location: SW MO
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Your Mini-14 will almost certainly be on Feinstein's ban list, based on the info she's released about it so far.
In which case I'll cordially invite her to personally come seize it.
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Old 01-12-2013, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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What does the AR in the AR-15 stand for? Assault Rifle, yes?

So would that not lend credence to the claim that the AR-15 is indeed an Assault Weapon?

I'm not a gun expert and I never particularly cared for the guns I had to use while in the military. I know both how to operate and handle a 9MM and a M-16, but I don't really like them.

This whole gun debate is boring anyway. Everyone just give it a rest please.
You may have used one in the military, but you didn't learn squat... AR does not stand for Assault Rifle... It stands for ArmaLite which was the original manufacturer of the AR platform.
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Old 01-13-2013, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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"The characteristics are very similar to the M16 minus the automatic mode,

There in lies 1 of the many problems with ant gunners. It doesn't matter if it is a full auto or not. If it LOOKS like a full auto, it must be banned. Emotion and perception counts more then reality.
Putting the issue with automatic aside there is really very little difference between both, it doesn't matter how it looks, the issue is the function.
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