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Old 01-13-2013, 12:20 AM
 
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The government has no authority to deprive any citizen the right to bear any arms whatsoever. Nuclear arms for everybody!!!
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Old 01-13-2013, 12:21 AM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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Yes, you seriously can, however it takes paperwork submitted to ATF and a wait of about 3 months for them to investigate you and act on your request and furnish you with a 'permit' giving you permission. All you need is the money to buy the rifle and $200 to pay for the tax stamp. Works the same for silencers, full auto guns, short barreled guns. I thought someone with the vast knowledge you think you have would already know this. Here is something else you don't know:

From the World Health Organization:
The latest Murder Statistics for the world:
Murders per 100,000 citizens

Honduras 91.6
El Salvador 69.2
Cote d'lvoire 56.9
Jamaica 52.2
Venezuela 45.1
Belize 41.4
US Virgin Islands 39.2
Guatemala 38.5
Saint Kits and Nevis 38.2
Zambia 38.0
Uganda 36.3
Malawi 36.0
Lesotho 35.2
Trinidad and Tobago 35.2
Colombia 33.4
South Africa 31.8
Congo 30.8
Central African Republic 29.3
Bahamas 27.4
Puerto Rico 26.2
Saint Lucia 25.2
Dominican Republic 25.0
Tanzania 24.5
Sudan 24.2
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 22.9
Ethiopia 22.5
Guinea 22.5
Dominica 22.1
Burundi 21.7
Democratic Republic of the Congo 21.7
Panama 21.6
Brazil 21.0
Equatorial Guinea 20.7
Guinea-Bissau 20.2
Kenya 20.1
Kyrgyzstan 20.1
Cameroon 19.7
Montserrat 19.7
Greenland 19.2
Angola 19.0
Guyana 18.6
Burkina Faso 18.0
Eritrea 17.8
Namibia 17.2
Rwanda 17.1
Mexico 16.9
Chad 15.8
Ghana 15.7
Ecuador 15.2
North Korea 15.2
Benin 15.1
Sierra Leone 14.9
Mauritania 14.7
Botswana 14.5
Zimbabwe 14.3
Gabon 13.8
Nicaragua 13.6
French Guiana 13.3
Papua New Guinea 13.0
Swaziland 12.9
Bermuda 12.3
Comoros 12.2
Nigeria 12.2
Cape Verde 11.6
Grenada 11.5
Paraguay 11.5
Barbados 11.3
Togo 10.9
Gambia 10.8
Peru 10.8
Myanmar 10.2
Russia 10.2
Liberia 10.1
Costa Rica 10.0
Nauru 9.8
Bolivia 8.9
Mozambique 8.8
Kazakhstan 8.8
Senegal 8.7
Turks and Caicos Islands 8.7
Mongolia 8.7
British Virgin Islands 8.6
Cayman Islands 8.4
Seychelles 8.3
Madagascar 8.1
Indonesia 8.1
Mali 8.0
Pakistan 7.8
Moldova 7.5
Kiribati 7.3
Guadeloupe 7.0
Haiti 6.9
Timor-Leste 6.9
Anguilla 6.8
Antigua and Barbuda 6.8
Lithuania 6.6
Uruguay 5.9
Philippines 5.4
Ukraine 5.2
Estonia 5.2
Cuba 5.0
Belarus 4.9
Thailand 4.8
Suriname 4.6
Laos 4.6
Georgia 4.3
Martinique 4.2
And
The United States 4.2
ALL the countries above America have 100% gun bans
Mostly third world nations on that list--is this supposed to be a great accomplishment?
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Old 01-13-2013, 12:23 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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You can take my bazooka away after you unwrap my cold, dead fingers from around it!!!!!!! Ditto my flamethrowers, and you definitely can't have my battleship!!!
I sink your battleship!
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Old 01-13-2013, 12:26 AM
 
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Yes, you seriously can, however it takes paperwork submitted to ATF and a wait of about 3 months for them to investigate you and act on your request and furnish you with a 'permit' giving you permission. All you need is the money to buy the rifle and $200 to pay for the tax stamp. Works the same for silencers, full auto guns, short barreled guns. I thought someone with the vast knowledge you think you have would already know this. Here is something else you don't know:

From the World Health Organization:
The latest Murder Statistics for the world:
Murders per 100,000 citizens

Honduras 91.6
El Salvador 69.2
Cote d'lvoire 56.9
Jamaica 52.2
Venezuela 45.1
Belize 41.4
US Virgin Islands 39.2
Guatemala 38.5
Saint Kits and Nevis 38.2
Zambia 38.0
Uganda 36.3
Malawi 36.0
Lesotho 35.2
Trinidad and Tobago 35.2
Colombia 33.4
South Africa 31.8
Congo 30.8
Central African Republic 29.3
Bahamas 27.4
Puerto Rico 26.2
Saint Lucia 25.2
Dominican Republic 25.0
Tanzania 24.5
Sudan 24.2
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 22.9
Ethiopia 22.5
Guinea 22.5
Dominica 22.1
Burundi 21.7
Democratic Republic of the Congo 21.7
Panama 21.6
Brazil 21.0
Equatorial Guinea 20.7
Guinea-Bissau 20.2
Kenya 20.1
Kyrgyzstan 20.1
Cameroon 19.7
Montserrat 19.7
Greenland 19.2
Angola 19.0
Guyana 18.6
Burkina Faso 18.0
Eritrea 17.8
Namibia 17.2
Rwanda 17.1
Mexico 16.9
Chad 15.8
Ghana 15.7
Ecuador 15.2
North Korea 15.2
Benin 15.1
Sierra Leone 14.9
Mauritania 14.7
Botswana 14.5
Zimbabwe 14.3
Gabon 13.8
Nicaragua 13.6
French Guiana 13.3
Papua New Guinea 13.0
Swaziland 12.9
Bermuda 12.3
Comoros 12.2
Nigeria 12.2
Cape Verde 11.6
Grenada 11.5
Paraguay 11.5
Barbados 11.3
Togo 10.9
Gambia 10.8
Peru 10.8
Myanmar 10.2
Russia 10.2
Liberia 10.1
Costa Rica 10.0
Nauru 9.8
Bolivia 8.9
Mozambique 8.8
Kazakhstan 8.8
Senegal 8.7
Turks and Caicos Islands 8.7
Mongolia 8.7
British Virgin Islands 8.6
Cayman Islands 8.4
Seychelles 8.3
Madagascar 8.1
Indonesia 8.1
Mali 8.0
Pakistan 7.8
Moldova 7.5
Kiribati 7.3
Guadeloupe 7.0
Haiti 6.9
Timor-Leste 6.9
Anguilla 6.8
Antigua and Barbuda 6.8
Lithuania 6.6
Uruguay 5.9
Philippines 5.4
Ukraine 5.2
Estonia 5.2
Cuba 5.0
Belarus 4.9
Thailand 4.8
Suriname 4.6
Laos 4.6
Georgia 4.3
Martinique 4.2
And
The United States 4.2

ALL the countries above America have 100% gun bans
Your last statement is not true.
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Old 01-13-2013, 12:27 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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Uh again your playing catchup. People are already making laser weapons at home. Crude, low power and highly expensive but expect that to change as technology gets cheaper.
I made my first laser back in the late 1960s. I was 14 at the time, and I stole the ruby chip from one of my mother's rings. I caught hell for that.

As far as flamethrowers go, I knew someone who built themselves a flamethrower from a fire-extinguisher. He used it to keep bears at bay. Bears really hate fire. Of course it played hell on the surrounding shrubbery, but it works great for deterring bears.
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Old 01-13-2013, 12:27 AM
 
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Why are bazookas, flamethrowers, 50 cal machine guns ect...why are they not legal?

All firearms should be protected by the 2nd amendment right? Or are we already controlling firearms and can easily control them more strictly?
I'd suggest you take a look at FPSRussia channel on YouTube, he probably has every weapon you mentioned and much, much more.

I'd suggest you view his channel, the weapons he have get very, very interesting especially considering how he has them:

https://www.youtube.com/user/FPSRussia
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Old 01-13-2013, 12:33 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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The government has no authority to deprive any citizen the right to bear any arms whatsoever. Nuclear arms for everybody!!!
Anyone with an understanding of basic high-school physics can build themselves a nuclear bomb. The tricky part is obtaining the fissionable material in sufficient quantity.
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Old 01-13-2013, 12:52 AM
 
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If we allow government the power to take away SOME of our gun rights, what will prevent them from eventually taking away ALL of our gun rights?
Fallacious slippery-slope argument.

Just because government restricts certain activities does not mean they will restrict all activities. Furthermore, if government is intent on restricting all activities, it can do so non-incrementally.

Such a fallacious argument can be used anywhere, to argue anything.

"If we allow government to restrict the speed limit to 55 mph, what will prevent them from eventually restricting it to 35?"

The answer to your question, of course, is the democratic process. That's what will, and what always has prevented (and allowed) government to do what it does.

The only action that could strip away all gun rights would be a constitutional amendment, which was the manner in which alcohol was outlawed. As has been mentioned in this thread, history shows how that worked out. Therefore, you have little to fear. No one is going to take your guns away. If they try, shoot them.
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Old 01-13-2013, 01:06 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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Mostly third world nations on that list--is this supposed to be a great accomplishment?

does it really matter? they are all part of the human race.
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Old 01-13-2013, 01:10 AM
 
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The government has no authority to deprive any citizen the right to bear any arms whatsoever. Nuclear arms for everybody!!!
Ridiculous.

District of Columbia v. Heller

From the majority opinion written by Antonin Scalia:

...Although we do not undertake an exhaustive historical analysis today of the full scope of the Second Amendment, nothing in our opinion should be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms.

In short, the Heller case affirmed an individual's right to keep and bear arms, but it also recognized that the 2nd Amendment right, like most rights, is not absolute. You cannot keep and carry any weapon you want, for any purpose, anyplace you want. IOW, the government can't ban firearms, but it can restrict their use, by whom, and where.
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