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Old 01-13-2013, 12:05 AM
 
Location: Madison, WI
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Outstanding video from Paul Elam at A Voice For Men.

I'm sick of being told how oppressive men are, when throughout most of history, men have died in wars and otherwise risked their lives trying to protect women and children.

Rather than being oppressed, the vast majority of women through the years have been pampered and catered to quite nicely. Guys, don't buy into the feminist myth of male oppression of women any longer. Watch this video to understand in greater detail.
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Old 01-13-2013, 12:09 AM
 
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I'm sick of being told how oppressive men are, when throughout most of history, men have died in wars and otherwise risked their lives trying to protect women and children.
Well that would most likely be because for most of history women and children were considered property.
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Old 01-13-2013, 12:15 AM
 
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Well that would most likely be because for most of history women and children were considered property.
Most of human history there was no concept of property as such.
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Old 01-13-2013, 12:18 AM
 
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Most of human history there was no concept of property as such.
Explain what you mean? Are you talking about pre-history? Even if you read descriptions from classical civilizations right on through Blackstone women are pretty much property. With pre-history we don't have much of a clue about how people tended to view property due to the fact that it is pre-history and people didn't record things.

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Old 01-13-2013, 12:33 AM
 
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most women know their end of the deal is fairer than ours.
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Old 01-13-2013, 12:36 AM
 
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I'm sure sooner or later, someone will say that some men beat and rape women. Which is a horrible, horrible thing. No question about it. I certainly don't deny that some men do horrible things to women.

But some women do horrible things to men, such as prevent men from seeing their kids through unfair divorce settlements, or kill a man's baby by having an abortion without consulting the man.

Furthermore, when a man does something awful to a woman, other men usually step in and defend the woman. Other men will often admonish a man who hits a woman quite harshly. Most fathers teach their sons that a real man never hits a woman. And rapists are so despised that even other prisoners hate them.
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Old 01-13-2013, 12:42 AM
 
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Yahoo! Video Detail for The Myth of Women's Oppression

Outstanding video from Paul Elam at A Voice For Men.

I'm sick of being told how oppressive men are, when throughout most of history, men have died in wars and otherwise risked their lives trying to protect women and children.

Rather than being oppressed, the vast majority of women through the years have been pampered and catered to quite nicely. Guys, don't buy into the feminist myth of male oppression of women any longer. Watch this video to understand in greater detail.
Do you not consider men in America not allowing women to vote from 1777-1919 oppression?
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Old 01-13-2013, 12:43 AM
 
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Explain what you mean? Are you talking about pre-history? Even if you read descriptions from classical civilizations right on through Blackstone women are pretty much property.
Property is a concept born by advanced civilizations. I don't believe that ancient Roman women, for example, were a property, no matter how you define that word. Actually, ancient Roman women at the time of decline remind modern women quite a bit. There is something deeply similar. Emphasis on the pleasures, rampant divorces and promiscuity, refusal to bear (many) children, even struggle for equal rights in the public arena. The less society is civilized, the more equal women are, as much as that is physiologically possible. Hunters gatherers couldn't afford a female piece of property and had no use for it.
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Old 01-13-2013, 12:56 AM
 
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Property is a concept born by advanced civilizations. I don't believe that ancient Roman women, for example, were a property, no matter how you define that word. Actually, ancient Roman women at the time of decline remind modern women quite a bit. There is something deeply similar. Emphasis on the pleasures, rampant divorces and promiscuity, refusal to bear (many) children, even struggle for equal rights in the public arena. The less society is civilized, the more equal women are, as much as that is physiologically possible. Hunters gatherers couldn't afford a female piece of property and had no use for it.
How do you know that property is a concept born of advanced civilizations? We know from written records that property goes back at least as far as the time of the Sumarians. We also know that hunter gatherer, and neo-lithic people had objects of considerable import from high quality flint knapping and domesticated dogs among hunter gatherers to bronze weapons among neo-lithic peoples. We have no clue how they viewed these, they might have been considered very valuable property. To say that it is a concept born of advanced civilization is idle speculation with no real evidence.

Secondly, history tends to imply recorded history. Thus why in pre-historic dynasties like the Xia are implied to be semi-mythical. Thus when I say history I tend to mean recorded history and not pre-history.

Third. Ancient Roman women were 100% property. They were owned by their fathers and used for marriage alliances. That was how Caesar cemented his relationship with Pompey according to Plutarch.

I would argue that the more civilized a society is the more equal women are. If you want modern day proof of this all you need do is compare, anywhere in the west to Afghanistan.

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Old 01-13-2013, 01:09 AM
 
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Do you not consider men in America not allowing women to vote from 1777-1919 oppression?
Obviously, you did not take the time to watch the video. Most people could not vote. The only people who could vote were the rich landowners. If this is oppression, then the 20% or so of rich elite white men were oppressing all women as well as the other 80% of men.

And furthermore, while women couldn't vote, keep in mind they also had no obligation to sign up for the draft, go to war, and lose limbs.

Feminists conveniently forget to factor those things into the equation.
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