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Civil war, my ass. The only ones wanting that are extreme right wing fringe elements. They will be taken out quickly if it came down to it. There's no cause for a civil war anyway. It's just lunatics frothing at the mouth while petting their guns.
There will be no civil war. The US will "Balkanize", just as the old USSR did. The need to break up the US will come from the crushing debt accumulated by the current USA. States, seeking relief from the economic consequences of federal debt, will leave the Union as a matter of necessity. I doubt there will be a single shot fired.
That is sad when someone is willing to kill as many Americans as they can just to protect their guns and more than likely be killed in the process and still losing all their guns.
No! What's sad, and will destroy this country, more than any other element, is the number of people unwilling to stand up for the rights given to them in the Constitution. That's a document that any of us who have ever served in the military, or any one of a number of public offices, swore to "support and defend from all enemies, foreign or domestic...," the people currently in Washington notwithstanding.
I first took that oath in 1966 and am still bound by it.
To willingly give up one right is to signal the willingness to give up the rest.
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No! What's sad, and will destroy this country, more than any other element, is the number of people unwilling to stand up for the rights given to them in the Constitution. That's a document that any of us who have ever served in the military or any one of a number of public offices swore to "support and defend from all enemies, foreign or domestic...," the people currently in Washington notwithstanding.
I first took that oath in 1966 and am still bound by it.
To willingly give up one right is to signal the willingness to give up the rest.
That is whyI am a huge supporter of the Right to Free Speech so that you are free to voice your own opinion, even if I disagree with you about guns. Also, no one is coming to kick down your door to take your guns away.
Actually, go read the Articles of Secession for yourself. There were southern politicians openly admitting that they wanted to keep slavery. Why? It was an economic system that made the South rich.
Once again, G_M, you are being very selective here (just as you were on another thread not long ago). Four Lower South States gave strong mention to slavery. And two of those (Texas and Georgia) mentioned other causes as well.
However, seven of the 11 Confederate States did not mention slavery at all. In fact, the four states of the Upper South initially rejected secession, and only took the step when Lincoln announced plans to invade the the lower cotton states. The common denominator of their rationale for leaving the Union was not slavery. Not at all. Rather, that the Lincoln administration was launching an aggresive war against a people who had done the North no wrong.
Profit from slavery? Free blacks owned slaves. The slave-trade itself was totally in northern hands, and northern industrialists gleefully profited off of cotton, produced by slave labor in many cases. Let's not get holier-than-thou.
Yep, like it tried to do in 1861. In the end, the South lost. Insanity is doing something twice and expecting the same result.
Yeah, that bolded part is true. No way around it. BUT...if ever happened again along the same dividing lines? Welll, to be blunt, the tide has changed, my friend!
The Southern states produce the most of the energy, food, ever growing industry, and a disproportionate number of men and women in the military are (always have been, for that matter), Southerners. To just name a few.
Besides, you haven't paid attention, apparently, as several have noted, IF there ever was a "civil war" again, it would not be North vs. South. No, it would be between red and blue states, and the latter wouldnt stand a chance. You'd starve and freeze in the dark.
Yep, like it tried to do in 1861. In the end, the South lost. Insanity is doing something twice and expecting the same result.
Like the 2008 and 2012 elections?
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Yep, like it tried to do in 1861. In the end, the South lost. Insanity is doing something twice and expecting the same result.
