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Old 01-14-2013, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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There is no benefit to registering guns. No benefit to you and no benefit to the government (other than they get to hire more government workers and spend more of your tax dollars.)

Journal News gun permit map used by burglars to target White Plains home?
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Old 01-14-2013, 09:05 AM
 
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The liberal way to respond to this would be to start a lawsuit against the rag that did this.

In this case it seems like a good idea.
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Old 01-14-2013, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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They need to require EVERY gun to be registered and possession of an unregistered firearm to be a felony where you spend at least a decade in jail PER WEAPON, get a fine which would bankrupt most people, and permanently lose any right to own a firearm since you've proven you can not be trusted to obey the law.

You prove you are a sane and reasonable gun owner by demonstrating you can follow the law. If you can't do that then you're a felon and you need to be in jail. That's not how it currently is but it damn well should be how it is.
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Old 01-14-2013, 09:12 AM
 
Location: In your head, rent free
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They need to require EVERY gun to be registered and possession of an unregistered firearm to be a felony where you spend at least a decade in jail PER WEAPON, get a fine which would bankrupt most people, and permanently lose any right to own a firearm since you've proven you can not be trusted to obey the law.

You prove you are a sane and reasonable gun owner by demonstrating you can follow the law. If you can't do that then you're a felon and you need to be in jail. That's not how it currently is but it damn well should be how it is.
Why? How does gun registration fix anything? Please explain in your own words.
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Old 01-14-2013, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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1) It helps to track who are the illegal gun dealers or the second hand sellers who break the law by selling to people who couldn't pass a background check.

2) It helps us figure out where the guns used in crimes are coming from and what their origins are.

3) When a gun is used in a crime we can track who owns it and where it came from.

4) Since gun owners would know the gun can be traced back to them they're more likely to not resell it to shady people and to keep it safely secured as they could face penalties for not doing so.

In short, it helps responsible owners maintain their gun rights but helps to identify the numerous bad actors.
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Old 01-14-2013, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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They need to require EVERY gun to be registered and possession of an unregistered firearm to be a felony where you spend at least a decade in jail PER WEAPON, get a fine which would bankrupt most people, and permanently lose any right to own a firearm since you've proven you can not be trusted to obey the law.

You prove you are a sane and reasonable gun owner by demonstrating you can follow the law. If you can't do that then you're a felon and you need to be in jail. That's not how it currently is but it damn well should be how it is.
Hey, Think4Yourself, think for yourself.

Creating a LAW doesn't suddenly make something wrong or right. Perhaps you may recall that at one point within the past 100 years, it was illegal for some people to walk outside without a yellow star sewn to their clothing. It was illegal for some people to buy or sell a bottle of whiskey. It was illegal for a white person to marry a black person. It was illegal for a black person to drink out of a water fountain that was labeled, "Whites Only."

Using your "logic," we could say this:

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You prove you are a sane and reasonable citizen of this country by demonstrating you can follow the law. If you can't do that then you're a felon and you need to be in jail. That's not how it currently is but it damn well should be how it is.
All laws are not created equally. There are bad laws, and bad reasons for some laws. I am not in awe of something, or convinced it's the most moral or right thing to do, just because it's "the law." Perhaps you've heard this quote before (if not, it's about time you did):

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There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.
Here are some more good ones:

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We are fast approaching the stage of the ultimate inversion: the stage where the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may act only by permission; which is the stage of the darkest periods of human history, the stage of rule by brute force.
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Today, when a concerted effort is made to obliterate this point, it cannot be repeated too often that the Constitution is a limitation on the government, not on private individuals -- that it does not prescribe the conduct of private individuals, only the conduct of the government -- that it is not a charter _for_ government power, but a charter of the citizen's protection _against_ the government.
Ayn Rand Quotes/Quotations from Liberty Quotes
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Old 01-14-2013, 09:30 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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1) It helps to track who are the illegal gun dealers or the second hand sellers who break the law by selling to people who couldn't pass a background check.

2) It helps us figure out where the guns used in crimes are coming from and what their origins are.

3) When a gun is used in a crime we can track who owns it and where it came from.

4) Since gun owners would know the gun can be traced back to them they're more likely to not resell it to shady people and to keep it safely secured as they could face penalties for not doing so.

In short, it helps responsible owners maintain their gun rights but helps to identify the numerous bad actors.
Correct.

We register our cars. We register our houses. We register ourselves with our social security numbers, passport numbers, and driver's licenses. We register our finances. We register pretty much EVERYTHING in our lives, and no one is making a big deal about it or taking it away. Registering firearms is not so drastically different.
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Old 01-14-2013, 09:30 AM
 
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There is no benefit to registering guns. No benefit to you and no benefit to the government (other than they get to hire more government workers and spend more of your tax dollars.)

Journal News gun permit map used by burglars to target White Plains home?

So much for the argument that having a gun "protects" you from the bad guys.
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Old 01-14-2013, 09:32 AM
 
Location: In your head, rent free
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So much for the argument that having a gun "protects" you from the bad guys.
Only left wing morons believe that guns protect people, it's sheer insanity. People who own guns protect themselves and their families. Guns are inanimate objects.
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