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If Rocker was living in 1933 Germany I seriously doubt he would have rose up against Hitler.
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And it was also Hitler who convinced people to give up their guns. I would say this is more about people following an idiot like Hitler.
Hitler wasn't in power when German gun laws were passed, in 1928. You've bought into story sold by some idiots. The Weimar regime put the law in place to disarm private armies that included likes of Nazi SA as their was an increasing threat of violent movements to destabilize Germany and gain power. Jews weren't into arming themselves anyway and nor were the Romanis (who Nazis hated... "illegal immigrants" of the time).
I don't like John Rocker at all, especially after the comments he made back in early 2000.
That said, the Wehrmacht was only powerful in WWII, not in 1933.
Kristallnacht was in 1938 however. That event led to 91 Jews being killed and 30,000 arrested. The SA was strong by then. Even if they had been fought off by armed civilians (doubtful), the Germany Army, which was powerful by then, and the rest of the SS would have been way too much for civilians to hold off.
And it was also Hitler who convinced people to give up their guns. I would say this is more about people following an idiot like Hitler.
I would say it was more about prejudice and discrimination and hatred.
Hitler exploited feelings that were already there, feelings that were a part of the German culture.
Just like there is distrust of Islam in the United States, and we have people today who try to exploit that fear, distrust, hatred to further their own ambitions.
John Rocker is obviously an idiot. An idiot that is using World News Daily to spread his ignorance.
The discussion of the 2nd Amendment, and the role of guns in our society is an important conversation. When people introduce Hitler into the conversation, it's an attempt to trigger emotional responses rather than engaging in rational debate. Rocker doesn't just suspend rational discussion, he suspends reality in his failure to recognize the situation that Jews found themselves in as Hitler rose to power, a small minority of people who had historically been marginalized by German culture and laws. Hitler stripped them of the economic power they had, he stripped them of their geographic freedom by first forcing them to wear identifying markers and then prohibiting their movements within and to/from Germany, he stripped them of their legal rights. By doing these things he progressively isolated them from the general population, all the while fueling a propaganda machine that laid the country's troubles at their doorstep. Resistance at this point equalled suicide, and the Jewish people when they were rounded up and sent to the camps, thought the camps were prison camps, not death camps. What happened to Hitler's victims is so unimaginable that there are people today who deny it ever happened. As unimaginable as it is to us, who know it did happen, think how unimaginable it must have been then, when such atrocities were unknown to the world.
I would say it was more about prejudice and discrimination and hatred.
Hitler exploited feelings that were already there, feelings that were a part of the German culture.
Just like there is distrust of Islam in the United States, and we have people today who try to exploit that fear, distrust, hatred to further their own ambitions.
John Rocker is obviously an idiot. An idiot that is using World News Daily to spread his ignorance.
The discussion of the 2nd Amendment, and the role of guns in our society is an important conversation. When people introduce Hitler into the conversation, it's an attempt to trigger emotional responses rather than engaging in rational debate. Rocker doesn't just suspend rational discussion, he suspends reality in his failure to recognize the situation that Jews found themselves in as Hitler rose to power, a small minority of people who had historically been marginalized by German culture and laws. Hitler stripped them of the economic power they had, he stripped them of their geographic freedom by first forcing them to wear identifying markers and then prohibiting their movements within and to/from Germany, he stripped them of their legal rights. By doing these things he progressively isolated them from the general population, all the while fueling a propaganda machine that laid the country's troubles at their doorstep. Resistance at this point equalled suicide, and the Jewish people when they were rounded up and sent to the camps, thought the camps were prison camps, not death camps. What happened to Hitler's victims is so unimaginable that there are people today who deny it ever happened. As unimaginable as it is to us, who know it did happen, think how unimaginable it must have been then, when such atrocities were unknown to the world.
Ironically, Rocker and Hitler have similar beliefs when it comes to gays, foreigners, and non Whites
Yes, but would he have said those things if he was around armed gays, foreigners, and non Whites?
Hitler? Yes, why not? Hitler was paranoid from the beginning. He took pains to have a security detail that was both unnervingly loyal to him, and well-armed. It's not like no one ever tried to assassinate him.
Hitler? Yes, why not? Hitler was paranoid from the beginning. He took pains to have a security detail that was both unnervingly loyal to him, and well-armed. It's not like no one ever tried to assassinate him.
And it was also Hitler who convinced people to give up their guns. I would say this is more about people following an idiot like Hitler.
That's patently false.
The only group that Hitler disarmed was the Jews. And in that, he had the support of the vast majority of the German people. Jews were hated not just by the regime, but by the public - they have had a long history of persecution in Europe dating back to the Middle Ages.
If you look it up, you'll find that all Hitler did was tweak gun control legislation that already existed well before his time in power. He didn't confiscate all the guns, and he actually significantly militarized society. Furthermore, he didn't need to confiscate the guns to gain power because: (1) by the time he did the overhaul, he was already fully in power, and (2) he enjoyed very high level of popularity among his people at the time.
It's time that conservatives get an education and stop repeating the canard of how "if only the Germany had been armed, Hitler wouldn't have happened." They largely were armed, and it did happen. It had nothing to do with gun control.
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