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Old 01-16-2013, 01:19 PM
 
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There would be no issue to argue about here, if Barack Obama provided the same kind of disclosure that we have always expected from a sitting President.
exactly what have previous presidents released that obama hasn't?
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Old 01-16-2013, 01:23 PM
 
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Just once I'd like to see a liberal/progressive/socialist/Democrat address an issue with thoughtful commentary.
i always have.

search for "birther" threads on this site and you'll see that i've consistently addressed the issue thoroughly relatively politely.
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Old 01-16-2013, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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What else do you think it would be?
I don't speak Indonesian, It could be anything. A title. A position. An instruction. I do know that it is absolutely unlike any form of "name" I've ever seen.

The document already lists his actual name "Barack Hussein Obama" and then simply follows it with an Indonesian word in parenthesis. Soebarkah was not his step father's name either. So whatever it is, a name does not appear to be on the short list.

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Old 01-16-2013, 01:25 PM
 
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It seems the most intelligent, logical and cohesive argument they have whenever someone brings up all the issues that have never been addressed concerning Obama's legitimacy.
i offered to politely discuss birtherism with you in the last birther thread. you never replied.

the offer is still open.
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Old 01-16-2013, 01:26 PM
 
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Just once I'd like to see a liberal/progressive/socialist/Democrat address an issue with thoughtful commentary.

It would be really nice if someone sent the kids out to the playground rather than allowing them to thwart any possibility of productive or meaningful information sharing, discussion or debate.

I am stumped to understand why any adult would want to call others "slugs" and "nutjobs" and make gratuitous insults, other than that they have nothing to contribute in the way of mindful commentary. Or perhaps its fear that information they don't like might actually be given a fair hearing.

There would be no issue to argue about here, if Barack Obama provided the same kind of disclosure that we have always expected from a sitting President. That is the real issue at hand. Why would anyone want to shield him from disclosing information that most employers would require of a prospective new hire? And why would anyone want to call me or anyone else disparaging, dismissive, ugly names for holding such common and reasonable expectations?

Why would Obama want to allow this controversy to bloom by failing to disclose his school records, including his financial aid applications?
Here's a thoughtful suggestion. Why don't you call the college nearest you, and ask them how long they keep any application materials?
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Old 01-16-2013, 01:28 PM
 
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Here's a thoughtful suggestion. Why don't you call the college nearest you, and ask them how long they keep any application materials?
it's 5years after attendance for occidental:

College Policies | Occidental College | The Liberal Arts College in Los Angeles
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Old 01-16-2013, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit
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There would be no issue to argue about here, if Barack Obama provided the same kind of disclosure that we have always expected from a sitting President. That is the real issue at hand. Why would anyone want to shield him from disclosing information that most employers would require of a prospective new hire? And why would anyone want to call me or anyone else disparaging, dismissive, ugly names for holding such common and reasonable expectations?

Why would Obama want to allow this controversy to bloom by failing to disclose his school records, including his financial aid applications?
Reasonable? No other President has ever has ever released their school records. President Bush's ended being public, but only because someone leaked them to New York Magazine. Since no else has ever intentionally made those records public, why is President Obama expected to?
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Old 01-16-2013, 01:30 PM
 
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So you're saying that once a president is elected, everyone should just be quiet, believe everything they say,....
my views on birtherism have never depended on anything obama has or hasn't said.
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Old 01-16-2013, 01:43 PM
 
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It would be nice if we could scrub all the birthers from this country at this point.
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Old 01-16-2013, 01:58 PM
 
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Please name one thing that any former president has disclosed that Obama has not.
I, too, would love to see that list. How about it, West2South?
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