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Old 01-19-2013, 04:48 PM
 
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Somebody that looks at ALL the facts, even ones they may not want to agree with or want to believe, and then makes a decision based on that.
great. than can you name the informed conservatives (preferably high profile) that agree with birtherism.
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Old 01-19-2013, 04:49 PM
 
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We never saw Mitt Romney's birth certificate. What was he trying to hide. We never saw his college transcripts either
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Old 01-19-2013, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC (in my mind)
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You have just pretty much described an impossibility, firmly establishing your troll hood and complete lack of serious intent.
Yes, its an impossibility, because its a fact that MOST people already have their mind made up on something before they even see the facts, and get their news/information from sources that agree with their worldview and shun those who don't. Most conservative Christians for instance would never watch a pro-gay documentary interviewing young gay people who grew up in the church and their perspective on it. Liberals do the same thing. My ex-roommate, an extreme leftist, immediately dismisses anything from anybody who believes in God, no matter if the issue has nothing to do with religion. Liberals take everything that MSNBC says without question yet won't believe a word said on Fox. Conservatives stick to Fox and won't believe anything said on MSNBC.
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Old 01-19-2013, 04:52 PM
 
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We never saw Mitt Romney's birth certificate.
actually we did. romney made his COLB available online at the end of may 2012.
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Old 01-19-2013, 05:07 PM
 
Location: FL
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You can't get a birth certificate from Hawaii saying you were born there unless YOU WERE BORN THERE. It really is that simple......
except to the birthers!
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Old 01-19-2013, 06:10 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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actually we did. romney made his COLB available online at the end of may 2012.
Yes, and it cracked me up. First of all, it was not a "vault" certificate, it was a copy with a 2012 date, I believe. It was called a "certificate of live birth", something that birthers argued about for months back in 2008 regarding Obama's BC. It was registered some days after his birth, like Obama's. His father was born in Mexico (which we all knew). ETC, ETC, ETC.
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Old 01-19-2013, 06:19 PM
 
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Yes, and it cracked me up. First of all, it was not a "vault" certificate, it was a copy with a 2012 date, I believe. It was called a "certificate of live birth", something that birthers argued about for months back in 2008 regarding Obama's BC. It was registered some days after his birth, like Obama's. His father was born in Mexico (which we all knew). ETC, ETC, ETC.

and the fact that it had a big fat VOID stamped across it.
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Old 01-19-2013, 08:47 PM
 
Location: west mich
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Yes, its an impossibility, because its a fact that MOST people already have their mind made up on something before they even see the facts, and get their news/information from sources that agree with their worldview and shun those who don't. Most conservative Christians for instance would never watch a pro-gay documentary interviewing young gay people who grew up in the church and their perspective on it. Liberals do the same thing. My ex-roommate, an extreme leftist, immediately dismisses anything from anybody who believes in God, no matter if the issue has nothing to do with religion. Liberals take everything that MSNBC says without question yet won't believe a word said on Fox. Conservatives stick to Fox and won't believe anything said on MSNBC.
Fox for 35 years has been the voice of plutocracy and corporate oligarchy, so why should anyone embrace its agenda? It has promoted this birtherism for its idiot racist audience. After decades of Fox media dominance, MSNBC came along to take on the Wall Street billionaires' "little bully on the block" and expose it for what it is - that is its purpose. There is no equivalence.
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Old 01-19-2013, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC (in my mind)
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Fox for 35 years has been the voice of plutocracy and corporate oligarchy, so why should anyone embrace its agenda? It has promoted this birtherism for its idiot racist audience. After decades of Fox media dominance, MSNBC came along to take on the Wall Street billionaires' "little bully on the block" and expose it for what it is - that is its purpose. There is no equivalence.
Fox News Channel has only been around since 1996. MSNBC also started in 1996. Both are propaganda machines on the opposite side of the political spectrum.
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Old 01-19-2013, 09:13 PM
 
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The fact that the more informed conservative are more likely to believe conspiracy theories.....
i'd still like to see the list of prominent informed conservatives that believe in birtherism.
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