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Old 01-23-2013, 09:55 AM
 
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Dunno.
If you don't know, why are you even offering an opinion ?


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I might have missed something, but I quickly scanned through this entire thread and couldn't find even on single post giving any justification for keeping pot illegal. Is there anyone in this thread who is willing to defend the prohibition against pot? I'd like to hear this argument.
I would too
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Old 01-23-2013, 09:55 AM
 
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Dunno. Why are liberals so against personal liberty whan it comes to the 2nd Amendment and why do they love nanny government?

Next dumb question?
That's easy, even as a gun-rights proponent, to see that firearms can easily be used to infringe upon the rights of others. We readily regulate alcohol, making it illegal to drink in public and be intoxicated while operating vehicles on public roadways.

So every time some nut job says "shall no be infringed," said nut job does a injustice to gun-rights.
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Old 01-23-2013, 09:55 AM
 
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The fact that people think a plant should be outlawed is ridiculous. I can understand regulating the use and commerce of a plant, but to make the growing and consuming of a plan illegal is just illogical to me.
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Old 01-23-2013, 09:57 AM
 
Location: SW MO
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If you don't know, why are you even offering an opinion ?
Your question is a prime example of an irony deficiency!
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Old 01-23-2013, 09:57 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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Yeah, but Castro is a communist. We can't abet communists.

MMMKAYYY, but China is also communist, as well as Vietnam. Yet we do business with those countries. Kind of hypocritical if you ask me.
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Old 01-23-2013, 10:01 AM
 
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MMMKAYYY, but China is also communist, as well as Vietnam. Yet we do business with those countries. Kind of hypocritical if you ask me.
But, he's communist.

I really don't know why we continue to have an embargo with Cuba. According to Wikipedia, it's all just a giant **** YOU to Fidel.
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Old 01-23-2013, 10:04 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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But, he's communist.

I really don't know why we continue to have an embargo with Cuba. According to Wikipedia, it's all just a giant **** YOU to Fidel.

That's what I'm saying. Cuba is getting their hands slapped for dealing with the Soviets, and trying to get their missiles over here. Like I said, time to move on. If we're going to deal with the likes of China, and Vietnam, then why not Cuba?
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Old 01-23-2013, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Clayton, MO
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I agree with conservatives on many issues but this one makes no sense. They will fight the legalization of a safe substance just as hard as they will same sex marriage and abortion. The thing is, there is no religious ban on marijuana usage so it can't be fought from that angle. They are for personal liberties until it comes to something pleasurable then they fight it tooth and nail. Just like alcohol and tobacco, marijuana should be a personal choice as long as one doesnt get behind the wheel while under the influence. We need a serious libertarian candidate who will bring back the principles this country was founded on.

I could be totally wrong here but my theory is that, politically speaking, a conservative politician would be outwardly against marijuana legalization only and simply to get the older, more traditional votes. And there a lot of those more "old school" votes that count. Its political. If you asked them aside, for the record, they probably would not care at all.

The problem then is getting elected. If a conservative, or GOP candidate said they are not opposed to legalization, they risk the election, because they would appear to be too Libertarian, and unfortunately we haven't yet as a society embraced Libertarian candidates seriously. Just my opinion.
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Old 01-23-2013, 10:16 AM
 
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I could be totally wrong here but my theory is that, politically speaking, a conservative politician would be outwardly against marijuana legalization only and simply to get the older, more traditional votes. And there a lot of those more "old school" votes that count. Its political. If you asked them aside, for the record, they probably would not care at all.

The problem then is getting elected. If a conservative, or GOP candidate said they are not opposed to legalization, they risk the election, because they would appear to be too Libertarian, and unfortunately we haven't yet as a society embraced Libertarian candidates seriously. Just my opinion.
We could unanimously agree (we being congress and their challengers) to say pot should be legal, there by alienating that as an issue for which to win votes.

But that won't happen.
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Old 01-23-2013, 10:20 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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I could be totally wrong here but my theory is that, politically speaking, a conservative politician would be outwardly against marijuana legalization only and simply to get the older, more traditional votes. And there a lot of those more "old school" votes that count. Its political. If you asked them aside, for the record, they probably would not care at all.

The problem then is getting elected. If a conservative, or GOP candidate said they are not opposed to legalization, they risk the election, because they would appear to be too Libertarian, and unfortunately we haven't yet as a society embraced Libertarian candidates seriously. Just my opinion.

That's because Libertarianism is scary to those who want to control all aspects of everybody's life. So they discredit us Libertarians and call us anarchists, kooks...ect...ect.. Today's Republicans go against their own ideology when it comes to small government. They're fine with the 2nd Amendment (which I fully support BTW), and booze being legal (which I also support) even though it can cause more harm to the body. Let's not forget cigarettes (I support this too as I am a smoker) which are also more harmful. But damnit, marijuana is illegal, and the law is the law ya know! I call BS! You're either pro freedom, or you're not! You cannot pick and choose just because you disagree with someone elses choices.
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