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View Poll Results: Should every single US citizen who owns a firearm be required to have it registered with the federal
Yes 16 30.19%
No 37 69.81%
Voters: 53. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-20-2007, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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No point in mandatory registration of firearms--------too many in circulation and besides; the true criminals would not abide by such a law anyway.

Better for the violent hoodlums to play Russian Roulette with a wheel gun with 5 of the 6 chambers loaded. Read that the odds of a criminal doing something vicious would drop with a probable likelyhood of retaliation
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Old 10-20-2007, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Pa
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As a gun owner I really have no issue regestering my weapons. I dont break laws and if 1 were stolen I would know it and report it. This said I am against new gun laws being passed. Just like immigration you can have 1000 laws on the books but if you dont enforce them whats the point?
I instead would like to see laws passed that if you use a firearm in the commission of a crime ie armed robbery then it should come with a mandatory death penalty. PUNISH THE CRIMINALS not the law abiding citizens.
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Old 10-20-2007, 03:52 PM
 
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From what I have originally heard about Al Gore in the 2000 election, he would have made it mandatory for every single citizen in the united states who owns a gun or firearm to have it registered with the federal authorities.
I don't think Gore could have pushed this legislation of this type through congress.
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Old 10-20-2007, 04:43 PM
 
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As for violent crime rates skyrocketing all over the nation, wtf did you get such nonsense? Violent crimes have dropped substantially year after year since 1995.

Bureau of Justice Statistics Violent Crime Rate Trends (http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/viort.htm - broken link)

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/viort.gif (broken link) [D]

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I wonder what the increase in CCW states has been in that same time period.
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Old 10-20-2007, 11:11 PM
 
Location: San Diego California
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There is a reason the right to bear arms is the #2 amendment in the Bill of Rights. It is because they considered it the most importaint right after free speech. The founding fathers, being far more educated than the average citizen today, had the foresight to see the possibility of tyrany overtaking our goverment. They knew the only defense we had against tyrany was an armed population. They did not intend for us to have guns as hunting implements. They did intend for us to own and maintain military grade weapons in order to ensure the power remained in the hands of the people. You would know this if you had ever read the Jefferson papers. They knew of the repression and missery that came from goverments whose power was absolute. Do you even understand what a citizen is? Do you realize that we in the U.S. are the only citizen population in the world. Being a citizen you have responsibilities to your country and your fellow citizens.
The issue is not about crime. It is about freedom. If you want to be a slave peasant without rights, then continue on the road of arms control. If you want your children and grandchilren to live free, then educate yourself on what a citizen really is and stand up for your rights. Hundreds of thousands of people who were responsible citizens, have given their lives for the freedoms you enjoy today, what have you done? The majority of us must answer that question, nothing, I have been a freeloader not a citizen.

"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms . . . disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes . . . Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
--Thomas Jefferson, quoting Cesare Beccaria in On Crimes and Punishment

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Old 10-21-2007, 07:51 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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Register weapons with the federal government? Give them even more intrusive control of civil liberties? With the fine example of how they are trying to control every aspect of our so called freedoms already? An absolute NO!
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Old 10-21-2007, 09:29 AM
 
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Federal isn't necessary. State would likely be fine.

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No point in mandatory registration of firearms--------too many in circulation and besides; the true criminals would not abide by such a law anyway.
No point in having a driver's license. There would be too many and true criminals will drive anyway.
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Old 10-21-2007, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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No registration of firearms, and their owners, should be required -

Period
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Old 10-21-2007, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Spots Wyoming
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Federal isn't necessary. State would likely be fine.



No point in having a driver's license. There would be too many and true criminals will drive anyway.
Firearms are a right, driver's licenses are a privilege. Not even a apples to apples comparison because when I want to use my gun to hunt, I then have to purchase a license just like do to drive a car. Whether it be a drivers license or a license for the car.
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Old 10-21-2007, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Spots Wyoming
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Has anybody else noticed that the OP has not come back to defend his position? Another hit and run thread?
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