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Old 01-20-2013, 06:12 PM
 
Location: Baldock, hertfordshire, England
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Most american nutters can be traced to Florida too, it seems.
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Old 01-21-2013, 04:20 AM
 
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do you have any evidence that the statistics, 12.5 versus 10.6 deaths a year, are a fabrication?
10.6 is a drastic undercount for the US. I can't think of any year in recent US history that didn't have a whole lot more deaths from mass-slayings than 10 or 11. Whatever data set the author is working from, it would seem to be woefully incomplete for the US.
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Old 01-21-2013, 04:29 AM
 
Location: Florida
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How does the average number of victims convert to "more killers". Four out of the 16 cases on the list were in either Swizerland or Finland, which are #1 and #2 in Europe on private gun ownership.
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Old 01-21-2013, 04:38 AM
 
Location: Somewhere Out West
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When did Europe become one country? Wouldn't a more valid comparison be the U.S. vs 1 European Country?
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Old 01-21-2013, 08:29 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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When did Europe become one country? Wouldn't a more valid comparison be the U.S. vs 1 European Country?

Per capita, Britain has more violence than the USA. They have a higher murder rate, too.
Death by gun is lower. I can see why they don't want guns in the hands of such a violent society, like Britain!
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Old 01-21-2013, 08:41 AM
 
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The U.S. government killed over 80 Americans at Waco, nearly 1/3 of them children!
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Old 01-21-2013, 08:52 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Per capita, Britain has more violence than the USA. They have a higher murder rate, too.
Death by gun is lower. I can see why they don't want guns in the hands of such a violent society, like Britain!
Where has that funny myth about Britain come from? I have read it a couple of times already on this board and it always makes me giggle You must be comparing some small town in Idaho to the red-light districts of London or Birmingham
Anyway, looking at gun-related killings, Britain is even saver than Germany or Portugal:
Chart: The U.S. has far more gun-related killings than any other developed country
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Old 01-21-2013, 09:13 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Where has that funny myth about Britain come from? I have read it a couple of times already on this board and it always makes me giggle You must be comparing some small town in Idaho to the red-light districts of London or Birmingham
Anyway, looking at gun-related killings, Britain is even saver than Germany or Portugal:
Chart: The U.S. has far more gun-related killings than any other developed country


The most violent country in Europe: Britain is also worse than South Africa and U.S.


You Thought The US. Was Violent - Colin Seymour
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Old 01-21-2013, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Where has that funny myth about Britain come from? I have read it a couple of times already on this board and it always makes me giggle You must be comparing some small town in Idaho to the red-light districts of London or Birmingham
Anyway, looking at gun-related killings, Britain is even saver than Germany or Portugal:
Chart: The U.S. has far more gun-related killings than any other developed country
Here's the thing...you're just as dead if you're killed by a handgun, a rifle, a bat or a knife. You do understand that it doesn't take a gun to kill, right? As others said, the violent crime rate in the UK is higher, and the murder rate in many European countries than the US. And even here, it's largely a gang/drug interaction, far more so than random acts against random individuals.
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Old 01-21-2013, 10:09 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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I remember that discussion from another thread. And I remember that I posted a source which explained why Britain seems a violent place. It has to do with the various definitions of violent crime, which includes more types of crime in Britain than it does in the US.

Britain has other problems, mostly binge drinking, teenage pregnancy, and stuff like that.
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