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When guns are removed folks go to other means to kill others or themselves. It's not the gun. Why is that so hard to grasp?
That is such a bogus argument. Guns are especially effective, fast, easy, convenient, relatively cheap and lethal. You don't need to be physically strong, or quick, or agile to fire a gun. Most people don't know how to make explosives, nor can most explosives be carried unobtrusively on your person. Many people lack the strength or viciousness to over-power another with a knife. One person cannot kill 26 others in quick succession with his hands, a knife, or a bat, but one person with a gun can. I mean, come on.
If other methods of killing others are as effective as guns, then why does anyone need a gun?
Women attempt suicide more often then men, but have a lower suicide rate than men. Why? Because they are less likely to own firearms. Other methods of suicide are often less "successful" than using a firearm.
If you would take the time to review the statistics you would understand. Here is your chance. Or you can continue to parrot nonsense that is spewed non stop by anyone and everyone who thinks getting rid of guns will solve the problem.
1) How could this school employee claim to know Nancy Lanza very well, if Lanza had no connection to the school at all? This isn't a mistake ... it's a fabricated lie. There are people who fill other roles in a school besides those solely with the title "teacher" within a school. There are teacher's assistants, schoolyard monitors, reading specialists, paraprofessionals, SPED teachers, some schools contract SLPs or audiologists, etc
Totally unresponsive to the point, because the facts as they have been established claim Lanza had NO CONNECTION to the school at all ... not a teacher, aid, janitor, groundskeeper, cook, dishwasher ... NOTHING. Furthermore, the women claiming to know her specifically referred to her as a "wonderful teacher" in her description. So your response is a TOTAL FAIL
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2) How could authorities identify Nancy Lanza as dead inside the school, when she never physically there? Perhaps they erroneously made the assumptions since she was supposed to be there, was unaccounted for amongst the living school personnel and was later for dead in her home.
Again, totally unresponsive to the facts as we have been presented them. Since she had no connection to the school at all, in any capacity, no one could have been expecting her to be there
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3) Since Nancy Lanza's body wasn't discovered inside her home until well after those initial reports claiming she was dead inside the school ... how could authorities have known she was even dead at all, until her body was actually found dead? Again, the police made that assumption initially because she was supposed to have been at the school during that time and was not present among the surviving personnel so the obvious assumption was that she was dead within the school.
Again, and for the last time .... since Nancy Lanza had no connection to the school, there is no reason why anyone would expect her to be there anymore than they might expect you to be there!
I asked for reasonable speculation, and this is what you present? Your responses require Nancy Lanza to actually have been a teacher at the school in order for anything you said to make any sense. That she was not a teacher at the school is the ENTIRE FREAKING POINT... yet you conveniently ignore that point.
If you would take the time to review the statistics you would understand. Here is your chance. Or you can continue to parrot nonsense that is spewed non stop by anyone and everyone who thinks getting rid of guns will solve the problem.
I'm familiar with that article. It's far-right nonsense. Gary Mauser works for the Simon Fraser Institute, a far-right think tank funded in part by the Koch brothers.
If you think other methods of killing are every bit as effective as guns, then you should have no problem with getting rid of guns. right? I mean, who needs 'em---people can just use explosives, rocks, and knives....
Apparently they do in countries where guns are banned and violent crime and murders are up. You aren't familiar with anything other then crying about a "source" because you can't refute the facts in it. Basically you are pathetic.
WTF does Chairman Mao have to do with the tragedy in Newton?
I responded to a rather dense and irrelevant post comparing the Newtown shooting with the recent knife rampage by the maniac in China that injured a bunch of children but didn't kill any of them. The poster was trying to show how much safer and more civilized that society is because they don't have guns.
I was just pointing out the consequences of a citizenry who allows themselves to be disarmed. In the case of the Chinese people, 30-60 Million of them murdered by their own government ... who, by the way, chose to disarm them prior to the mass murdering.
I think it's very concerning that the facts which have been reported in re this case, for some, don't seem to be bad enough and so there is an assumption made by many that they are not being told the whole truth because the whole truth must be more violent. Seems that a lot of people have been so desensitized by gun violence and exposure to violence that they just can't believe that as bad as Sandy Hook is, there there must be more to the story.
Quite to the contrary ... I think the facts in this case couldn't be worse, because not many of them seem to be remotely factual.
The reason some of us don't feel we're being told the whole truth has a lot to do with the blatant lies told. Maybe that seems silly to you ... but to me, that seems to be a totally reasonable conclusion. When I'm lied to, I often feel I'm not being told the whole truth. Maybe I'm just remarkably intuitive that way?
Totally unresponsive to the point, because the facts as they have been established claim Lanza had NO CONNECTION to the school at all ... not a teacher, aid, janitor, groundskeeper, cook, dishwasher ... NOTHING. Furthermore, the women claiming to know her specifically referred to her as a "wonderful teacher" in her description. So your response is a TOTAL FAIL
Again, totally unresponsive to the facts as we have been presented them. Since she had no connection to the school at all, in any capacity, no one could have been expecting her to be there
Again, and for the last time .... since Nancy Lanza had no connection to the school, there is no reason why anyone would expect her to be there anymore than they might expect you to be there!
I asked for reasonable speculation, and this is what you present? Your responses require Nancy Lanza to actually have been a teacher at the school in order for anything you said to make any sense. That she was not a teacher at the school is the ENTIRE FREAKING POINT... yet you conveniently ignore that point.
Nancy Lanza was a volunteer at the school in the kindergarten. Why is this so hard to believe? There are many positions at a school besides "teacher". So she was a volunteer instead of "teacher". Wow that's some sinister stuff. Let's call in the FB of I
Nancy Lanza was a volunteer at the school in the kindergarten. Why is this so hard to believe? There are many positions at a school besides "teacher". So she was a volunteer instead of "teacher". Wow that's some sinister stuff. Let's call in the FB of I
Just one problem. The School Superintendent said that she was not a volunteer, and had no connection to the school.
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