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Politics have changed drastically in this country from the day this country was founded and it continues to change constantly. So what? When have politics in this country ever been static? Different groups of people have always changed the politics.
Big deal. Roll with the punches. Everything in life isn't about politics, ya know. No one is going to force you to change your beliefs.
I didn't see you right wingers complaining about the Cuban American vote when it was even more solidly Republicans than it is now. Why was that bloc ok?
Oh...i know why. Because it helped you win Florida in a bunch of elections.
But these "voting blocs" are only bad when they aren't positively slanted in your favor.
Typical.
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We dont complain because they have seen the horrors and failures of communism, and are not voting for the same policies, that is why, they want California, fine, when the run it into the ground they will cry and scream for a bail out.
We dont complain because they have seen the horrors and failures of communism, and are not voting for the same policies, that is why, they want California, fine, when the[y] run it into the ground they will cry and scream for a bail out.
How many Hispanic governors has the state of California had?...
How many Hispanic governors has the state of California had?...
Race does not matter, culture, values, and ideology do. If you think I am label all Hispanics in with the statist I am not, most of them, yes because they are statist or their useful idiots.
How many statist Governors and legislators has/does California have?
Politics have changed drastically in this country from the day this country was founded and it continues to change constantly. So what? When have politics in this country ever been static? Different groups of people have always changed the politics.
Big deal. Roll with the punches. Everything in life isn't about politics, ya know. No one is going to force you to change your beliefs.
Our political culture has not changed, we have always been a Constitutional Republic, never have we been/had a Socialist/Communist Government with a Dictator, Latin political ideology is just that. You are changing the talking point to be dismissive of the argument and are attempting to deride others for not giving in to your ideology.
Its not solely about my beliefs, its about the nation being changed over time by another form of political culture. It effects my kids and grand kids, so yes it does effect me.
What a load of BS. As shown in several threads California has the least number of people on welfare as a percentage of population of any state. This is just another right wing talking point which is a complete lie.
Accept that wasn't what was being stated by cw30000. Read it again: New welfare recipients migrate to Cali outnumber new taxpayers by many time.
Your link doesn't answer that.
The link answers how many welfare reciepients there are in each state as a percentage of population. As you can see from the factual numbers California is low on the list while most red states, especially southern red states, are much higher. Therefor it is just factually incorrect to claim that some how California has higher welfare rates than other states as, factually speaking, it has much lower rates.
The link answers how many welfare reciepients there are in each state as a percentage of population. As you can see from the factual numbers California is low on the list while most red states, especially southern red states, are much higher. Therefor it is just factually incorrect to claim that some how California has higher welfare rates than other states as, factually speaking, it has much lower rates.
That is a fact not an opinion.
You still haven't answered the original claim. There are more new welfare recipients then there are new tax payers in CA. This means the rate of welfare users is rising based on the number in the tax base.
I'm not calling your link factually incorrect, only that your link isn't viable based on the claimed comment made. You are simply attempting to espouse biased ideology vs actually proving the claim incorrect.
You need to pick one either race matters or it doesn't. Blaming American social problems as being caused by a certain race is racist thinking.
Who gets to decide a groups culture and values actually are? Because a lot of racists hide behind the I don't hate this or that race, just their culture and values and then proceed to lie and stereotype that group of people's culture and values just like a racist.
The problems are American social problems, saying they are problems caused by Hispanics is racist.
Did I say their were?
I said certain views, values, cultures, and ideologies are to blame.
Well lets compare nations, and their values, and their cultures. which has harnessed electricity, invested the airplane, the machine gun, Kevlar, nuclear weapons and nuclear energy,broke the sound barrier, the internet, the smartphone , and oh landed on the moon with a space craft 44 years ago with a space craft that had less computing power then a cell did 10 20 years ago.
So stop saying all nations and culture are all the same and have the same value..they dont.
We dont complain because they have seen the horrors and failures of communism, and are not voting for the same policies, that is why, they want California, fine, when the run it into the ground they will cry and scream for a bail out.
California is doing just fine.
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Originally Posted by gunlover
Race does not matter, culture, values, and ideology do. If you think I am label all Hispanics in with the statist I am not, most of them, yes because they are statist or their useful idiots.
How many statist Governors and legislators has/does California have?
So now race DOESN'T matter? What's the point of this thread then? Make up your mind.
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Originally Posted by gunlover
If that is what liberals/progressive marxist want, that is fine, LEAVE AMERICA!
You first.
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Originally Posted by Iron Wood
Our political culture has not changed, we have always been a Constitutional Republic, never have we been/had a Socialist/Communist Government with a Dictator, Latin political ideology is just that. You are changing the talking point to be dismissive of the argument and are attempting to deride others for not giving in to your ideology.
Its not solely about my beliefs, its about the nation being changed over time by another form of political culture. It effects my kids and grand kids, so yes it does effect me.
*SIGH*
Utter nonsense.
Many of the founders of this "constitutional republic" were slave holders that believed that one race of people were 3/5ths of a human. They didn't think women were even smart enough to vote.
Stop romanticizing the history of the American political culture.
It has always changed and will continue to change. There isn't a damn thing wrong with that. That's what it's supposed to do.
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