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Old 01-24-2013, 04:16 AM
 
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I think you might have wanted to read the article all the way through, this was at the end



Actually, the GOP never had a balanced budget from 2000 to 2007 and even controlled the congress several years with a republican president.

BTW, the speaker lambasted this administration for kicking the can down the road, which is exactly what they are doing here.
BTW, you are specifically calling out the GOP for kicking the can down the road, which is exactly what the Democrats have done as well. So you're doing the same thing the speaker did, while commenting on him doing it.
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Old 01-24-2013, 04:28 AM
 
Location: The Brat Stop
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BTW, you are specifically calling out the GOP for kicking the can down the road, which is exactly what the Democrats have done as well. So you're doing the same thing the speaker did, while commenting on him doing it.
It's actually conservatives who cried out that democrats kicked the can down the road during budget negotiations in 2010, and now they're doing it. It sounds like neither party is concerned.
Where were conservatives between 2000 and 2007 with no crying for balanced budgets and voted to raise the debt ceiling all those years, even when the GOP controlled congress, nothing was done, but now, conservatives are being conservative? such hypocrisy at it's best. {or worst}
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Old 01-24-2013, 04:40 AM
 
Location: 77441
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obama is the proud owner of over $6T+ in additional debt and by the end of his second term it will be pushing an additional $20T and you want to discuss republicans ?
seriously ?
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Old 01-24-2013, 05:01 AM
 
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Not overly dem. support chuck.
Was it passed with dems supoort or not? You can play words all you want, I never said "overly" I said "with dem support."

No need to be mad, it is in the senate now, lets see what old harry is going to do with it....
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Old 01-24-2013, 06:43 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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I for one, wish they did not cave in to the Dems. But this is exactly what your side wanted pall. Congrats. I have no faith in our politicians at this point. It is absolutely insane that we keep doing this. We cant do this in our own homes and financial situations. It would be foolish and idiotic to do so, yet they do it with our national economy. Utter insanity.

And you dumb liberals must be so damn proud of not passing a budge in how many years now??!!?!?! And you have the gull to blame only the GOP for the mess we went into!
If you think that the federal government spends too much, then the time and place to address spending is when Congress votes on appropriations, not when the bills for what they bought come due.

The GOP had no other choice to cave. As the Times said:
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After the debacle of the 2011 debt crisis, which damaged the nation’s credit rating and its standing in the world of global finance, Speaker John Boehner knew that his demand for equal cuts in spending was no longer sustainable. If the hostage that Republicans wanted to take — the economy of the United States — couldn’t be used as a bargaining chip, it might as well be released.
I believe there is room in the budget for cuts but to sanction massive slashing of the budget, especially in social programs, is economically counter-productive -- pushing the nation back into recession.
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Old 01-24-2013, 06:59 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Wouldn't that be great if nobody in Washington got paid unless they do the jobs they were elected to do?

House approves short-term debt ceiling fix, measure goes to Senate

Read more: House approves short-term debt ceiling fix, measure goes to Senate | Fox News
Your thread title makes it sound like it's all the Republicans doing and that the Dems don't want to kick the can down the road.

But the House vote says otherwise. And in your linked article there is this:

"The Democratic-controlled Senate is expected to approve the debt bill quickly."

Looks like both sides are more than happy to kick the can down the road.
We've been doing it so well for over 4 years why stop now ?
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Old 01-24-2013, 07:27 AM
 
Location: The Brat Stop
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Your thread title makes it sound like it's all the Republicans doing and that the Dems don't want to kick the can down the road.

But the House vote says otherwise. And in your linked article there is this:

"The Democratic-controlled Senate is expected to approve the debt bill quickly."

Looks like both sides are more than happy to kick the can down the road.
We've been doing it so well for over 4 years why stop now ?
Only four years?
//www.city-data.com/forum/27915431-post22.html

No balanced budgets, debt ceiling always raised in most all presidencies, and I can go back 12 years, or, are you folks just counting 4 years of a dem president?

The GOP screamed Obama's admin wanted to kick the can down the road, now it's really the GOP that want's to do this, and I'm thinking it was the GOP all the time, after all, why would conservatives suddenly become conservative after 12 years? because there's a democrat in the White House? If for no other reason.

We'll see what the senate does. I have hopes they'll reject it, based only upon principal. It's not really what Americans want to see.
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Old 01-24-2013, 07:37 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Your thread title makes it sound like it's all the Republicans doing and that the Dems don't want to kick the can down the road.

But the House vote says otherwise. And in your linked article there is this:

"The Democratic-controlled Senate is expected to approve the debt bill quickly."

Looks like both sides are more than happy to kick the can down the road.
We've been doing it so well for over 4 years why stop now ?
The Congress has voted to extend the debt ceiling ever since that law was passed -- not 4 years but decades ago.

Moreover, to avoid the pay issue, the Senate merely has to pass a budget -- any budget, and it doesn't have to pass the House.
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Old 01-24-2013, 07:40 AM
 
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It's been 15 years since a full Budget was, so blame who?
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Old 01-24-2013, 07:42 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Only four years?
//www.city-data.com/forum/27915431-post22.html

No balanced budgets, debt ceiling always raised in most all presidencies, and I can go back 12 years, or, are you folks just counting 4 years of a dem president?

The GOP screamed Obama's admin wanted to kick the can down the road, now it's really the GOP that want's to do this, and I'm thinking it was the GOP all the time, after all, why would conservatives suddenly become conservative after 12 years? because there's a democrat in the White House? If for no other reason.

We'll see what the senate does. I have hopes they'll reject it, based only upon principal. It's not really what Americans want to see.
No, go back and read my post.."WELL OVER 4 years" is what I wrote, meaning this is not Obama's doing.
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