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Old 01-25-2013, 07:31 PM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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"If they let you"? Haha...you prove my point in black people blaming others. Obama is not hated because of hisskin color, he's hated for his very liberal, very socialist policies. Notice how Obama is well spoken. None of that ebonics talk Bill speaks of. Now if maybe 60-70% of the black population was well spoken like Obama, or close to it, maybe the perception of black people would be different. But guess what, Obama is the exception, not the norm in black people. That fact should speak volumes in itself.
Riiight, Yes I repeat "IF THEY LET YOU" in case you don't realize it blacks do not own the media nor the majority of the fortune 500 companies, so meaning if you are qualified you still have to know somebody to get a foot in the door and that is no gaurantee that you will sit in the boardroom either.

You are partially right but since you are unable to see the racist rhetoric that has been directed at the President I don't see any reason to believe anything that you have to write. Please show what president went through the types of attacks that he has without some it being racially motivated. When was the last time that a group of powerful republicans openly met to plan the ouster of a president BEFORE he took office regardless of policies?

Why 60-70% of the black population have to be well spoken like Obama? Why not 60-70% of Latinos, Asians, Europeans learn to actually speak ENGLISH! While we are on it why not 80-90% of the whites in this country be as well spoken as well? How about if everyone could affford to go to college and graduate with high honors that might help. Better yet, how about if the "powers-to-be" quit cutting funding for schools in the inner cities? Obama is not the "exception" to your assinine rant he is just the one that is the most visable. If you would get from under your trailor home and go out and meet successful black men and women you would realize how stupid that you actually sound.
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Old 01-25-2013, 07:32 PM
 
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I've never heard a white person say "who you is" or "who be that". That's a black thing.
I have, you really should get out more.
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Old 01-25-2013, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Niagara Falls ON.
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In the original post title the poster uses the word, "realest" and then talks about how right on Cosby is talking about people who don't know English. Do you see a bit of a contradiction there, LOL

There is no such word as realest!
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Old 01-25-2013, 08:29 PM
 
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In the original post title the poster uses the word, "realest" and then talks about how right on Cosby is talking about people who don't know English. Do you see a bit of a contradiction there, LOL

There is no such word as realest!
I guess he felt that Mr Cosby's 10 year old speech did not pertain to him
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Old 01-25-2013, 09:06 PM
 
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Let me inform everyone. Black people are first and foremost not a uniform, blanket of people were just as diverse as any other race of people. Secondly many do not seem to understand that black people did not come here for the same reasons, or the same ways as whites, in that process we were systematically broken from the spiritual essence to the physical of our being, in essence we went through one of the worst parts of our holocaust. Yes our HOLOCAUST.

Now to what Mr. Cosby said, first of all he's from a totally different generation, he will not understand black youths today and what we go through mostly being that there is no spotlight on it, maybe a historical spotlight will show it but not a present one. We still have discrimination throughout society and its even worse since it is now covert, from the media to the workforce. How COINTELPRO and Operation BlackDesk f'ed up the community, and to think that those same covert operations has no hand in the era of today is absolutely ridiculous. So us black people no matter what we do right are always have the fingers pointed at us, white people can have different dialects, lingo, and ways to talk but if black people do it, we need to "do better" or some other redundant rhetoric and since the spotlight is always on us we can never truly solve our own issues within our community.

We're not even given credit for the the activities we do, such as the whole free-reduced lunch and other government programs that give so-called handouts started with community organizations such as The Black Panther Party for Self-Defense who started the free lunches. Give credit where credit is due and btw we're not going to get over what happened 50 years ago and how long ago it was and how long its been continuing especially the ones of us who are aware and awake.

I ask some of you to look at the laws, operations, and statues that are against the majority of Black Americans if you need any links or help I will be glad to show you
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Old 01-25-2013, 09:17 PM
 
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Let me inform everyone. Black people are first and foremost not a uniform, blanket of people were just as diverse as any other race of people. Secondly many do not seem to understand that black people did not come here for the same reasons, or the same ways as whites, in that process we were systematically broken from the spiritual essence to the physical of our being, in essence we went through one of the worst parts of our holocaust. Yes our HOLOCAUST.

Now to what Mr. Cosby said, first of all he's from a totally different generation, he will not understand black youths today and what we go through mostly being that there is no spotlight on it, maybe a historical spotlight will show it but not a present one. We still have discrimination throughout society and its even worse since it is now covert, from the media to the workforce. How COINTELPRO and Operation BlackDesk f'ed up the community, and to think that those same covert operations has no hand in the era of today is absolutely ridiculous. So us black people no matter what we do right are always have the fingers pointed at us, white people can have different dialects, lingo, and ways to talk but if black people do it, we need to "do better" or some other redundant rhetoric and since the spotlight is always on us we can never truly solve our own issues within our community.

We're not even given credit for the the activities we do, such as the whole free-reduced lunch and other government programs that give so-called handouts started with community organizations such as The Black Panther Party for Self-Defense who started the free lunches. Give credit where credit is due and btw we're not going to get over what happened 50 years ago and how long ago it was and how long its been continuing especially the ones of us who are aware and awake.

I ask some of you to look at the laws, operations, and statues that are against the majority of Black Americans if you need any links or help I will be glad to show you
Well said
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Old 01-25-2013, 09:27 PM
 
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There is a CULTURE of anti-education
Does anyone think this has been an issue in common American society even before the Revolution?
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Old 01-26-2013, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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[MOD CUT] Someone with a brain asks WHY do they do these things. Here's a hint....you heard the kid talk poorly, and then heard his parents and they talked poorly...and guess what? You keep going and the grandparents talk poorly,and the greatgrandparents talked poorly. Strange huh?

And then you follow the money trail...why is this child poor? Then you look at his parents and ask why are they poor? Oh wait..look at his grandparents and they are poor...hmm..and so are his greatgrandparents and their parents as well are poor. That's weird too huh?

When you ask the right questions, and seek truth, only then will you understand and find the real answer. And it isn't "well he is poor because he wants to be and it's his own fault." But most people don't have the capacity or inclination to seek truth..it's just easier to blame people, ridicule, and make dumb/uninformed statements.

Nothing Bill Cosby is saying is inherently wrong, but he is only 1/4 right...now what is that 3/4 that is missing in all this? Hmm...
A branch of my family comes from "the ghetto." And I do mean "the ghetto" - the worst, stereotypical image that you can conjure up in your head would probably be very accurate.

I am so very proud of the generation of 20 somethings that have come from that side of the family. WITHOUT EXCEPTION and armed with only a public school education and strength of character, the young women of this generation of illegitimate children born to crackhead moms with kids from a wide variety of men they never married, have escaped the ghetto.

These strong young women (for some reason, none of the young men have managed to pull themselves out of this quagmire) don't use ebonics or ghetto slang. They finished their public education with 3.0 or better GPAs. They've gone on to college, and/or into white collar jobs. Not one of them has an illegitimate child. They are married to men who actually work full time in real jobs.

These African American girls were raised in abject poverty by drug abusing mothers on public assistance. They grew up surrounded by poverty, malnutrition, crime, violence, abuse and neglect. Yet, they managed to use what resources were available to them to change their lives for the better.

I don't see why others can't do the same. It takes a lot of strength and perseverance but it definitely is possible.
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Old 01-26-2013, 09:16 AM
 
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BILL COSBY HAS DONE IT AGAIN. HE STATES THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH:

Dr.. William Henry "Bill" Cosby, Jr., Ed..D.


WELL SAID, BILL
It's NOT about color...it's about behavior and conduct!!!
He is right.
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Old 01-26-2013, 02:40 PM
 
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A branch of my family comes from "the ghetto." And I do mean "the ghetto" - the worst, stereotypical image that you can conjure up in your head would probably be very accurate.

I am so very proud of the generation of 20 somethings that have come from that side of the family. WITHOUT EXCEPTION and armed with only a public school education and strength of character, the young women of this generation of illegitimate children born to crackhead moms with kids from a wide variety of men they never married, have escaped the ghetto.

These strong young women (for some reason, none of the young men have managed to pull themselves out of this quagmire) don't use ebonics or ghetto slang. They finished their public education with 3.0 or better GPAs. They've gone on to college, and/or into white collar jobs. Not one of them has an illegitimate child. They are married to men who actually work full time in real jobs.

These African American girls were raised in abject poverty by drug abusing mothers on public assistance. They grew up surrounded by poverty, malnutrition, crime, violence, abuse and neglect. Yet, they managed to use what resources were available to them to change their lives for the better.

I don't see why others can't do the same. It takes a lot of strength and perseverance but it definitely is possible.
Do you know the struggle of the black man, I don't think you do, the most pushed view of the black man in the media is a feminized, subordinate and weak. Same with school teachers, and the real black men have been imprisoned or silenced or for the most part are just too old. So to be real the young black male is misguided and lost. They don't want to aspire to be great not because they are not capable but because of what's being fed to their subconscious mind. And once again most are asleep, not knowing where they are from and who they are, same with black women, its just that in this system of white supremacy they are given better advancement because they pose less of a threat. Not hating on the sisters for them making it or anything but you need to be aware of the system at play, how it operates, and what's the reason for such.
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