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Old 01-24-2013, 03:48 PM
 
Location: San Diego California
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In George Orwell's book 1984 the world adopted a new language called "new speak" in which words and phrases had altered meanings in order to affect public opinion. It is undeniable that some of this phenomena has crept into our present day language, so let's see some of your favorite examples.

Here's one... Car dependent.

A vehicle which gives nearly unrestained freedom being desribed as a restriction.
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Old 01-24-2013, 06:27 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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"Assault weapon" was never a term used by firearms makers. If there was a definiition, it was laid down by the 1994 'assault weapon' ban, also known as the Feinstein Amendment. The MSM accepted the terminology and used it without caveat.

But now there is a new Feinstein Amendment, and the criterion is being changed with two or more 'assault features' to guns with one or more 'assault features.' So when the MSM uses the term "assault weapon" is it the new or old definition? Who knows? Who cares?

What I do know is that journalists who use terms that they can't define, can't possibly know what they are talking about.
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Old 01-24-2013, 06:29 PM
 
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In George Orwell's book 1984 the world adopted a new language called "new speak" in which words and phrases had altered meanings in order to affect public opinion. It is undeniable that some of this phenomena has crept into our present day language, so let's see some of your favorite examples.

Here's one... Car dependent.

A vehicle which gives nearly unrestained freedom being desribed as a restriction.
I always view car dependent as living in an area that doesn't allow for walking, biking, or public transit. Saying someone is car dependent doesn't have anything to do with restriction.
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Old 01-24-2013, 06:41 PM
 
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"Conservative"used to mean small government and low taxes. It now implies big debt, big government and wars of expansion.


"Liberal" used to represent freedom of choice, defense of civil libertities, tolerance of other lifestyles. It now means support of the police state,patriot act, nannyism, kiiling brown people with drones.
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Old 01-24-2013, 06:47 PM
 
Location: East St. Paul 651 forever (or North St. Paul) .
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Obama: "hope and change..."
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Old 01-24-2013, 07:08 PM
 
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We need to "cut spending in the tax code".
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Old 01-24-2013, 07:09 PM
 
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Gun "buy back"- were they the governments guns first?
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Old 01-24-2013, 07:17 PM
 
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We need to "cut spending in the tax code".
It's actually spending written into the tax code.
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Old 01-24-2013, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC (in my mind)
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In George Orwell's book 1984 the world adopted a new language called "new speak" in which words and phrases had altered meanings in order to affect public opinion. It is undeniable that some of this phenomena has crept into our present day language, so let's see some of your favorite examples.

Here's one... Car dependent.

A vehicle which gives nearly unrestained freedom being desribed as a restriction.
Agreed. I've never thought about car-dependent in that way.

I know most people under 30 are trying to get away from being car-dependent. While I think walkable neighborhoods are cool, I would hate to be at the mercy of public transportation or air travel if I wanted to go anywhere.

Being car-dependent only becomes a restriction in the event of a massive oil shock. In such a situation, being too far from most of your day to day necessities to walk, it could create a major problem.
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Old 01-24-2013, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC (in my mind)
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"Conservative"used to mean small government and low taxes. It now implies big debt, big government and wars of expansion.


"Liberal" used to represent freedom of choice, defense of civil libertities, tolerance of other lifestyles. It now means support of the police state,patriot act, nannyism, kiiling brown people with drones.
Agreed here as well.

Today's liberals are not really liberal at all except on a few issues. The term "progressive" or "leftist" is more appropriate.

Today's definition of conservatism is a little more complicated. Conservative in general means high regard for tradition and opposition to change for change's sake.
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