DEVELOPING: Court Rules Obama is abusing Powers: Obama recess appointments unconstitutional, court (Clinton, compare)

[carolac]

Apparently that's the issue--the timing of the vacancy and whether the recess was a recess as defined by the Recess Appointments Clause. Sounds quirky--here's the full opinion for everyone to read.

http://www.cadc.uscourts.gov/internet/opinions.nsf/D13E4C2A7B33B57A85257AFE00556B29/$file/12-1115-1417096.pdf

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Originally Posted by EinsteinsGhost

So, the appointments took place during recess. Right?

[chucksnee]

Originally Posted by EinsteinsGhost

We discussed this a year ago.

A Pro-forma session is needed only when congress is in recess.

Then why does the court disagree with you?

[chucksnee]

Originally Posted by EinsteinsGhost

So, the appointments took place during recess. Right?

No, that's the entire discussion, they were not adjourned....they were not in recess....which is exactly why the court made their decision.

[Quick Enough]

Originally Posted by cecilsav

He did what Obama did for Libya- ordered military action on his own , without approval from Congress.

Another fine example of posting something without knowing anything on the issue. And you probably vote. Heaven help us!

"The Iraq Resolution or the Iraq War Resolution (formally the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002,[1] Pub.L. 107–243, 116 Stat. 1498, enacted October 16, 2002, H.J.Res. 114) is a joint resolution passed by the United States Congress in October 2002 as Public Law No: 107-243, authorizing military action against Iraq.

In fact, the Resolution was co-sponsored by the Senate majority leader, Tom Daschle a DEMOCRAT.

Do you feel foolish now?

[Quick Enough]

Originally Posted by carterstamp

No, wrong again. GWB made 171 recess appointments to Obama's 29.

Get it?

Some of you people are amazing.

What does Bush's, or any President's including Obama, LEGAL appointment have to do with Obama's NON legal appointments?

[Harrier]

Mitt Romney can be president by February 20, 2013.

[Quick Enough]

Originally Posted by HistorianDude

Bush's Wiretaps Ruled Unconstitutional : NPR

Not an impeachable offense either.

Psst! NPR does NOT determine the legality of laws or actions of a President. Their opinion means nothing.

[HistorianDude]

Originally Posted by Quick Enough

Psst! NPR does NOT determine the legality of laws or actions of a President. Their opinion means nothing.

NPR didn't rule on anything, Poindexter. A court did.

[Quick Enough]

Originally Posted by gomexico

This was just one 3-judge panel. The matter will make its way to the Supreme Court ... in time. But you point-out that other Presidents, many other Presidents if I'm reading other sources correctly, have applied the recess appointments as did President Obama. So their actions, if his were not properly authorized, were similarly improper. I haven't looked at the panel of judges' backgrounds here, but we may have an instance where certain jurists are seeking to redefine the Constitutional application improperly themselves. A struggle between the Judiciary and the Executive. Anyhow, this will all be litigated and the girls who are drooling all over this discussion thread gleefully because they thing the "got" the corrent President on "something" are, once again, jumping to (maybe incorrect) conclusions.

What I find hilarious is the lefties defending the appointment by Obama saying they were legal when all the repubs do was to use a procedure created by Ole Harry Reid.

[Quick Enough]

Originally Posted by rorqual

Wrong again

Obama's 'Abuse of Power' Argument on Recess Appointments - ABC News

"Pro-forma" is the new shenanigan

Court decision on recess appointments could make America harder to govern

Duh! The case was heard by FEDERAL JUDGES NOT ABC News biased so called journalists.