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Old 01-25-2013, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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It seems that the city was so close to being finished with the installation of smart meters on their homes that they went after these last two with arrests so they could install the meters for them.

How much would you think one of those meters would cost? It is $70 for installation and $25 per month no matter whether you wanted one or not.

There are a number of problems listed here about what happens after these Agenda 21 meters are installed on homes. Could any of this be true in homes of liberals? Maybe just in the homes of conservatives.

Fascist City Arrests Two Moms for Opposing ‘Smart Meters’ in Homes
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Old 01-25-2013, 01:37 PM
 
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What, now you don't even read the cites you unload on us?

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The city offers a wired version of the meters but forces recipients to pay a $70 fee for installation and an additional $25 per month.
They could have chosen not to have the smart meters, but they weren't willing to reimburse the utility for the cost of a non-standard service. They could have had the courage of their convictions and have disconnected from the grid, but didn't want to either. Too bad, so sad, now spend your time in lockup meditating on the concept of a "utility easement".
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Old 01-25-2013, 01:38 PM
 
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Let's see. Invading privacy and violating civil rights in the name of public safety....sounds about right. Ignoring possible health concerns to pass their agenda. Yep, these ladies need to sue the crap out of the city.
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Old 01-25-2013, 01:55 PM
 
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Could any of this be true in homes of liberals?
lol. Our tremendously conservative town put in smart meters. They were free and our electric bill went DOWN $100 bucks a month. A tea-party member installed it and I gave him a soda. Nice guy. BTW: All that nice, green money we don't have to pay the electric company is now gathering interest in the vacation fund at the bank and our tinfoil hat costs are zero. We don't even glow in the dark.

So, Roy. You going to take these women in when they're sitting in the cold and dark and they can't get FOX?
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Old 01-25-2013, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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Caughtinaweb, the utility company has an easement on all properties they serve as a condition of getting service. If you don't like it then disconnect from the utilities and live with candles. The hard reality is the utility easement is a legally binding contract so there were no rights violated. That's why they're now in jail because they have no idea what the law says, what their legal obligations were, nor did they really know much of anything it seems.
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Old 01-25-2013, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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City arrests two moms for opposing "smart meters' in their homes.
[shrug]
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Old 01-25-2013, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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The women could have chosen to terminate their contract with the electric company. No electricity, no meter needed.
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Old 01-25-2013, 02:28 PM
 
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Let's see. Invading privacy and violating civil rights in the name of public safety....sounds about right. Ignoring possible health concerns to pass their agenda. Yep, these ladies need to sue the crap out of the city.
No civil rights were violated. If they don't want to buy electricity from the local utilities, nobody is forcing them. They were even graciously offered a meter that doesn't use wireless technology, but didn't feel like paying for it.

But if they want to purchase power, well - then utility easements is one of those little inconveniences one has to put up with.
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Old 01-25-2013, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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No civil rights were violated. If they don't want to buy electricity from the local utilities, nobody is forcing them. They were even graciously offered a meter that doesn't use wireless technology, but didn't feel like paying for it.

But if they want to purchase power, well - then utility easements is one of those little inconveniences one has to put up with.
When I used to work for the local gas company there were some instances when people would get upset at me for being on their property to read their gas meter, i.e. trespassing. I nicely responded (and I'm paraphrasing here) that the alternative was that I could skip the read due to "access issues" and the company would simply estimate the bill. One guy had the audacity to say that the estimate was always high. Well, then, maybe you should let me actually read the meter!

These smart meters measure energy usage more accurately and with lower labor costs.

[in alignment with my fiscal conservative viewpoint]

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Old 01-25-2013, 02:40 PM
 
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Caughtinaweb, the utility company has an easement on all properties they serve as a condition of getting service. If you don't like it then disconnect from the utilities and live with candles. The hard reality is the utility easement is a legally binding contract so there were no rights violated. That's why they're now in jail because they have no idea what the law says, what their legal obligations were, nor did they really know much of anything it seems.
Gee aren't government forced monopolies great?
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