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View Poll Results: Should traitors be allowed to be Secretary of State?
Yes 5 16.13%
No 24 77.42%
Undecided 2 6.45%
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Old 01-27-2013, 10:48 AM
 
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The US never declared war on VN.

Look up the "Gulf of Tonkin Resolution" passed in August 1964.
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Old 01-27-2013, 10:49 AM
 
Location: The Brat Stop
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It does not get any more "formal" than enacting a Public Law. That is what Congress does. The US Constitution merely says that Congress shall have the power to declare wars. It does not say how those wars will be declared, only that Congress is the sole branch of government with the constitutional authority to make a declaration of war.

Common sense should tell you that any time one nation authorizes the use of military force against another nation they are, in fact, making a declaration of war. However, I can see that common sense is not one of your strong suits.
Sorry, but a resolution is not a declaration of war.
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The Gulf of Tonkin Resolution (officially, the Southeast Asia Resolution, Public Law 88-408) was a joint resolution that the United States Congress passed on August 7, 1964, in response to the Gulf of Tonkin Incident.

It is of historical significance because it gave U.S. President Lyndon B. Johnson authorization, without a formal declaration of war by Congress
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Old 01-27-2013, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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Sorry, I'm a VN Vet, and I don't consider Kerry a traitor. We should have never been in that f***ing war in the first place.
Whether or not we should have been in Vietnam in the first place is moot point. We were there, and Kerry collaborated with the enemy, giving them material aid and comfort. Which is why he was 'honored' by the enemy and given a special recognition in their war museum. Whether you consider Kerry to be a traitor or not is immaterial, he is a traitor as defined by Article III, Section 3, Clause 1 of the US Constitution.
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Old 01-27-2013, 10:50 AM
 
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Whether or not we should have been in Vietnam in the first place is moot point. We were there, and Kerry collaborated with the enemy, giving them material aid and comfort. Which is why he was 'honored' by the enemy and given a special recognition in their war museum. Whether you consider Kerry to be a traitor or not is immaterial, he is a traitor as defined by Article III, Section 3, Clause 1 of the US Constitution.
Wrong again.

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The Gulf of Tonkin Resolution (officially, the Southeast Asia Resolution, Public Law 88-408) was a joint resolution that the United States Congress passed on August 7, 1964, in response to the Gulf of Tonkin Incident.

It is of historical significance because it gave U.S. President Lyndon B. Johnson authorization, without a formal declaration of war by Congress
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Old 01-27-2013, 10:50 AM
 
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Only in the Obama administration.
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Old 01-27-2013, 10:53 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Only in the Obama administration.

Of course, to the delusional mind, an administration selling missiles to an enemy state wasn't treasonous, eh?
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Old 01-27-2013, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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Sorry, but a resolution is not a declaration of war.
Obviously you are utterly clueless and do not know how your own government functions.

A Joint Resolution is legislation that both Houses of Congress enacts into Public Law. Anytime Congress seeks to make a declaration of any kind, they enact a Joint Resolution into Public Law. That is all Congress can do - enact laws.
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Old 01-27-2013, 10:54 AM
 
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Whether or not we should have been in Vietnam in the first place is moot point. We were there, and Kerry collaborated with the enemy, giving them material aid and comfort. Which is why he was 'honored' by the enemy and given a special recognition in their war museum. Whether you consider Kerry to be a traitor or not is immaterial, he is a traitor as defined by Article III, Section 3, Clause 1 of the US Constitution.
Your baseless accusation is immaterial.
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Old 01-27-2013, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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So you insult those the miltary supported

As do you.
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Old 01-27-2013, 11:01 AM
 
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Of course, to the delusional mind, an administration selling missiles to an enemy state wasn't treasonous, eh?
Like Egypt, Libya and turkey?
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