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Old 01-27-2013, 10:54 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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And border states. We are the welfare clinic for the whole world, you can bet a large chunk of these births are to non-citizens who find the welfare life here very lavish -- beyond their wildest dreams. Mexico and Central America don't have welfare handouts, we provide them those.
Alluding that a greater part of births in New Mexico are to illegal aliens is some serious delusion, but rather par for the course from you...
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Old 01-27-2013, 11:12 PM
 
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I'm will to bet money that this is because NM has a ton of Indian tribes and rural reservations tend to have little to no development, nothing in the way of job opportunities, and thus tend to be pits of poverty and despair. Even so I doubt the 70% figure; it just smells like BS.
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Old 01-27-2013, 11:15 PM
 
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I suspect it's not much different in many other states -- 70% of babies born to welfare households. The takers are fast surpassing the payers -- this cannot last long.
do you have any suggestions on how this trend can be reversed?

how to limit births?
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Old 01-27-2013, 11:28 PM
 
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I'm will to bet money that this is because NM has a ton of Indian tribes and rural reservations tend to have little to no development, nothing in the way of job opportunities, and thus tend to be pits of poverty and despair. Even so I doubt the 70% figure; it just smells like BS.
"malamute" does allege it is mostly to "non-citizen" mothers, so since Medicaid cannot cover illegal aliens, he must be referring to legal immigrants. I don't know how that can resolve to the teen birth rate in New Mexico, but "malamute" really isn't concerned how statistics won't back up his claims. New Mexico is a little more vibrant than you describe, I'm a New Mexico native (and not on Medicaid).
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Old 01-27-2013, 11:34 PM
 
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They may be red states but they've been invaded by illegals who don't care what goes on in government as long as they're there, their kids are in school for free, and they can live off of American Citizens' money whenever possible.
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Old 01-27-2013, 11:38 PM
 
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"malamute" does allege it is mostly to "non-citizen" mothers, so since Medicaid cannot cover illegal aliens, he must be referring to legal immigrants. I don't know how that can resolve to the teen birth rate in New Mexico, but "malamute" really isn't concerned how statistics won't back up his claims. New Mexico is a little more vibrant than you describe, I'm a New Mexico native (and not on Medicaid).

You can't be serious. Illegals walk into emergency rooms all over the country to have their babies, who are then granted citizenship, whereby the parents can collect monthly assistance from the US govt.

They used to bus illegals to our state just for that purpose. They were pregnant and wanted their kids born here. The hospitals don't turn anyone away, remember? And who ends up paying? Not the illegals who don't have any money. Americans pay their way for them.
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Old 01-28-2013, 01:47 AM
 
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I suspect it's not much different in many other states -- 70% of babies born to welfare households. The takers are fast surpassing the payers -- this cannot last long.

7 in 10 births in New Mexico paid for by Medicaid | Home - Home
NM was a sanctuary state under the other Governor I dont know about this Governor.
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Old 01-28-2013, 10:17 AM
 
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Alluding that a greater part of births in New Mexico are to illegal aliens is some serious delusion, but rather par for the course from you...
I wouldn't doubt that there are a high number of these births from illegal immigrants since NM has a high number of Hispanics in it. I posted a link once to an article about Parkland Hospital in Dallas befor and the number of births from mother's here illegally and the ensuing costs to the taxpayer and the hospital itself were astounding. Texas is another state saturated with Hispanics. It is no coincidence.
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Old 01-28-2013, 10:25 AM
 
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"malamute" does allege it is mostly to "non-citizen" mothers, so since Medicaid cannot cover illegal aliens, he must be referring to legal immigrants. I don't know how that can resolve to the teen birth rate in New Mexico, but "malamute" really isn't concerned how statistics won't back up his claims. New Mexico is a little more vibrant than you describe, I'm a New Mexico native (and not on Medicaid).
You're also a non-hispanic white and not an illegal immigrant.
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Old 01-28-2013, 10:27 AM
 
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do you have any suggestions on how this trend can be reversed?

how to limit births?
Well, for starters we can start with enforcing our immigration laws and re-interpreting birthright citizenship which is one of the incentives for migrating here illegally and giving birth. Then we will only have to deal with our own poor and the costs they incur.
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