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Old 01-28-2013, 10:57 AM
 
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This has been out for a while, but the big move is that people like you are touting that its not as severe. You were the people who were saying it did not exist at all. It was all a scam and that it was made up for goverment to take control of business. Then I heard many of your type that said that it was not man made and so no control was needed. Now its real and man made just not as bad as it was once thought to be. Its the right who keeps baby stepping to the other side on this issue, not the other way around.
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:01 AM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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The above links you posted are not working.
Could you fix them please?

Thank you,
Chad.
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:05 AM
 
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The above links you posted are not working.
Could you fix them please?

Thank you,
Chad.
Probably because they're Faux News (Fake News).
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:11 AM
 
Location: North of Canada, but not the Arctic
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Darn! I was just getting to enjoy global warming, especially the warmer winters.
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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When are the global warming cult followers going to realize they have been lied to...

Norway Data Shows Earth
Lied to about what?

The title of the link clearly states that global warming is real.
In order for something to be "less severe than feared" it would have to exist right?

So are we supposed to be cheering because mitigation actually works or what?

'Cause clearly it does work, as per the link. Or were we supposed to ignore that?
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:17 AM
 
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Darn! I was just getting to enjoy global warming, especially the warmer winters.
Yes, people ignore that the world would actually be better off with warmer temps. A longer growing season being one of the biggest advantages.
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:24 AM
 
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I've looked around for some statistics on this, and saw the figures varied greatly.

What I want to know is, at what rate is the arctic ice melting versus the rate at which the antarctic is freezing. There is no doubt that the arctic is melting, and melting fast. But the media has been very quiet to mention why the antarctic ice has been building, and building vertically especially (which needs to be taken into account).

In the picture below, could this be a visual representation of where all this melted ice has been accumulating, which could help explain why the rise in ocean levels has been so little? (I'm really asking this because I don't know, not to start some anti-climatologist flame war)

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Old 01-28-2013, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Kent, Ohio
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The above links you posted are not working.
Could you fix them please?

Thank you,
Chad.
The link that Mr.XXX was trying to provide is below. But I find it interesting that even the Fox news article has to admit this:

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But with any story on the science of climate change, scientific truths are never so simple.
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Andrew Dessler, a professor of atmospheric sciences at Texas A&M University, called Spencer a "controversial figure" within the climate research community. He argued that Spencer's paper is neither new nor correct. "He's taken an incorrect model, he's tweaked it to match observations, but the conclusions you get from that are not correct," Dessler told LiveScience.com
Here is the link that Mr.XXX was trying to provide:
Read more: Does NASA Data Show Global Warming Lost in Space? | Fox News
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:37 AM
 
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Yes, people ignore that the world would actually be better off with warmer temps. A longer growing season being one of the biggest advantages.
With that statement, you just made it amply clear that you're completely ignorant of ecological systems.
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:59 AM
 
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Is climate change happening? Yes. Is human activity effecting global temperatures. Yes. By how much? Eh........

Nobody is denying that global warming/climate change is happening. What we're skeptical of is how much of an effect humans are having. Our planet went through warming and cooling cycles long before humans were a factor; it's a natural event. Trying to extrapolate future climate trends from a sliver of data in which humans have been a factor is questionable at best.

Both the GW denier side and the GW activist side have interests in this issue. Big oil obviously wants to keep cars running on gas as long as they can. Green energy also has a huge financial interest in global warming being accepted as fact, which allows billions of dollars to be poured into green energy initiatives and startups. Billions have vanished in the past few years as defunct solar companies supported by government grants (and closely tied to members of this administration) have closed up shop and walked off with huge sums of taxpayer dollars. However, since they're portrayed as progressive, concerned companies looking out for the planet's best interest, these incidents are immune to criticism.
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