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Old 01-29-2013, 08:33 AM
 
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I asked my question first and nobody has answered it. I am perfectly willing to answer any follow up questions after mine gets addressed.

Here is a sample of what your responses to everyone on this thread have been all along:

(1) You aren't exactly answering my questions
(2) Nobody answers my questions
(3) That, is not an answer to my question
(4) I thought so, that answer is a refusal to answer my question
(5) I will not answer anything else until you answer my question
(6) You always refuse to answer my questions
(7) If you would answer my question, I wouldn't be asking you to answer my question
(8) That response doesn't properly answer my question
(9) I asked you a question, and that answer doesn't address my question
(10) That's not a proper answer to my question

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Old 01-29-2013, 08:59 AM
 
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When are the global warming cult followers going to realize they have been lied to...

Norway Data Shows Earth
Our global warming climate scientists are just a more educated version of the village witch doctor or shaman. Both of them are reacting to events out of ignorance as to what is causing them. Both claim the mantle of the wise sage, declare the people are to blame, and proclaim we must provide sacrifices before the angry gods.

Today is no different then primitive times, all that has changed is that instead of reading knuckle bones in the light of a camp fire, we view data from ocean buoys and satellites. Both are just guesses, because they don't know what caused the bones or temps to align as they did.

In 1990 the gods were angry, and village shamans predicted an epic calamity if sacrifices were not made. In 2013 those dire predictions failed to be fulfilled, so our witch doctors declared our actions have appeased the gods.

In both times, the past and present, some witch doctors refuse to give up the intoxicating power to control people. They will do whatever it takes to frighten the villagers and continue their sacrifices.
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Old 01-29-2013, 09:10 AM
 
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[font=Verdana]This article lists numerous examples of extreme weather, then gives the scientific reasons for believe that these extremes are linked to global warming:
If you insist I will provide them but I can post example after example of predictions from scientists concerning what was going to happen concerning extreme's and none of them came true.

For years we had predictions of record numbers of hurricane's and what not only to see the numbers actually decrease.

If you want to argue for laws that rationally address emissions, I'm all on board. I thought raising CAFE standards was a great idea.

When you argue that we must contribute billions in taxes to address some mythical belief, I am not interested.
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Old 01-29-2013, 09:11 AM
 
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Here is a sample of what your responses to everyone on this thread have been all along:

(1) You aren't exactly answering my questions
No, I said it wasn't addressed, period. It wasn't. Still hasn't been.
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Old 01-29-2013, 09:13 AM
 
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Our global warming climate scientists are just a more educated version of the village witch doctor or shaman.
I wouldn't go that far as I am sure that there are many that actually do science. Indeed most of the high profile ones are indeed the guy standing on the street corner with the placard stating "Repent, the end is near".
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Old 01-29-2013, 09:15 AM
 
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Is anthropogenic global warming (AGW) a hoax? I don't know... but I believe it is. Any more, AGW proponents refuse to debate. They follow this by name calling, attempted ridicule and general sophistry when anyone challenges their religion. Yes, I called it a religion. I did so because I believe they must operate on blind faith because even with some of the supposed best scientists (some of whom are known to be frauds because their leaked emails reveal their conspiracy to commit fraud) in the world working on creating their climate models, the same models they use to support their claims of AGW, these models showed results which differ from measured reality.

Professor Bob Carter, an Australian geologist put together a relatively short (36 min) presentation that compiles several astounding facts (torpedoes in their argument) the AGW proponents don't want you to hear, nor are they willing to discuss.



Professor Bob Carter torpedoes the "scientific consensus" on the climate HOAX - YouTube
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Old 01-29-2013, 09:33 AM
 
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This article lists numerous examples of extreme weather, then gives the scientific reasons for believe that these extremes are linked to global warming:
Insurance News - EXPLAINING EXTREME EVENTS OF 2011 FROM A CLIMATE PERSPECTIVE [Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society]

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You will find that the evidence we have collected of climate variations has been increasing the further we go into modern times.

Since the invention of the thermometer humans have been able to record ambient temperatures of their surrounding. With the launching of satellites in the 1970s, and each decade there after, we have been able to better monitor the planet.

There have always been fluctuating weather conditions on our planet, we only think things have gotten worse, because we were unable to properly document extreme examples of weather conditions in the past. There are no satellite images or data to document extreme weather data of the past, so we fret over the only data we do have, post 1970.

All we are doing is observing normal weather conditions, we have turned into hypochondriacs, like Rock Hudson in the movie "Send Me No Flowers."
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Old 01-29-2013, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Kent, Ohio
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For years we had predictions of record numbers of hurricane's and what not only to see the numbers actually decrease.
The statistics for hurricane frequency over the past century can suggest either an increase or a decrease, depending on what data you include (e.g., all storms classified as hurricans, or only hurricanes of higher intensity, etc.). But, in any case, the frequency of hurricanes is only one measure. You asked "where are the effects" and I specifically answered your question by listing numerous examples of extreme weather of many types. I also gave links to my sources, many of which were scientific publications or insurance publications - not just articles on Fox News, or whatever.

I don't see how it is that my post does not count as an answer to your question.

As for hurricans, here are a couple of things:

Frequency Of Atlantic Hurricanes Doubled Over Last Century
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/07/070730092544.htm

Graph showing Frequency of hurricanes
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Old 01-29-2013, 09:46 AM
 
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If you insist I will provide them but I can post example after example of predictions from scientists concerning what was going to happen concerning extreme's and none of them came true.

For years we had predictions of record numbers of hurricane's and what not only to see the numbers actually decrease.

If you want to argue for laws that rationally address emissions, I'm all on board. I thought raising CAFE standards was a great idea.

When you argue that we must contribute billions in taxes to address some mythical belief, I am not interested.
When their alarmism for drastic rising ocean levels, more hurricanes etc... failed to come true, they switched to "climate change" this way the normal weather fluctuations would be their evidence. They no longer need to provide proof, because the normal variances in weather is their proof. It's like the old joke about a man accused of being a charlatan for selling elephant repellent in New York City, "of course it works, have you ever seen an elephant in the city?" You claim that something which will normally occur all on its own, is proof that your scam is not a scam at all.
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Old 01-29-2013, 09:50 AM
 
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The statistics for hurricane frequency over the past century can suggest either an increase or a decrease, depending on what data you include (e.g., all storms classified as hurricans, or only hurricanes of higher intensity, etc.). But, in any case, the frequency of hurricanes is only one measure. You asked "where are the effects" and I specifically answered your question by listing numerous examples of extreme weather of many types. I also gave links to my sources, many of which were scientific publications or insurance publications - not just articles on Fox News, or whatever.

I don't see how it is that my post does not count as an answer to your question.

As for hurricans, here are a couple of things:

Frequency Of Atlantic Hurricanes Doubled Over Last Century
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/07/070730092544.htm

Graph showing Frequency of hurricanes
Hurricanes are not climate.
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