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The GOP scheme to rig the electoral college (and nullify the popular vote) in certain key swing states in time for 2016 appears dead- for now, at least. A barrage of accurate reporting undid the plans of the party, and GOP officials in Virginia, Fla, Michigan, and Ohio have said they've "shelved" the "project" for now:
Only Govs Walker in WI and Corbett in PA have yet to let go of the plot, but they are expected to do so.
They say that sunlight is the best disinfectant. Kudos to the bloggers who first blew the whistle on this stinker, and to the media for accurate follow-up, forcing the GOP to go back to the drawing board!
Gee, maybe instead of wasting time trying to come up with scams to erase votes, the GOP can now get to work on modifying it's policies to appeal to modern Americans...
The GOP scheme to rig the electoral college (and nullify the popular vote) in certain key swing states in time for 2016 appears dead- for now, at least. A barrage of accurate reporting undid the plans of the party, and GOP officials in Virginia, Fla, Michigan, and Ohio have said they've "shelved" the "project" for now:
Only Govs Walker in WI and Corbett in PA have yet to let go of the plot, but they are expected to do so.
They say that sunlight is the best disinfectant. Kudos to the bloggers who first blew the whistle on this stinker, and to the media for accurate follow-up, forcing the GOP to go back to the drawing board!
Gee, maybe instead of wasting time trying to come up with scams to erase votes, the GOP can now get to work on modifying it's policies to appeal to modern Americans...
Nah!
Maybe you should actually read the US Constitution for a change.
"Each state shall appoint, in such manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a number of electors, equal to the whole number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or person holding an office of trust or profit under the United States, shall be appointed an elector." -- Article II, Section 1, Clause 2 of the US Constitution.
The State legislatures determine how their Electors are selected for the Electoral College, not the people. If the State legislature decides to abolish the popular vote for President, they have the constitutional authority to do so.
Nebraska and Maine have already done what these other States were, or still are, considering. They do not select their Electors based upon "winner-take-all."
oh good grief. how many times do we have to say this is not "rigging" and is not a "republican" idea.
both Main and Nebraska have this exact plan in place and have had it for a long time. No one has complained about it and it was NEVER considered a "republican" idea.
In fact since Al Gore got beat, liberals have been SCREAMING for this plan.
Now it is true that Republicans have targeted states with this old plan in a way that would help them... but it is also true that dems wouldnt mind one bit, if it didnt help republicans.
having said that, I am VERY happy that this will not happen. we dont need to change anything about the system!
01-30-2013, 09:28 AM
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Maybe you should actually read the US Constitution for a change.
What would lead you to think the OP isn't aware that what these GOPers wanted to do is perfectly legal? Perhaps you should learn to respond to what is actually posted before posting condescending crap.
The fact that it's legal doesn't make trying to strip away the ability of the people to choose the president any less disgusting.
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01-30-2013, 09:41 AM
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In fact since Al Gore got beat, liberals have been SCREAMING for this plan.
It would be an excellent idea if it were implemented everywhere and if congressional districts weren't heavily biased in favor of Republicans. The GOP has overridden the will of the people in the House, and now they want to override the will of the people in presidential elections too. We should be striving to make an unfair system more fair, not less.
It's nothing more than an admission that they can't win in a fair fight.
oh good grief. how many times do we have to say this is not "rigging" and is not a "republican" idea.
both Main and Nebraska have this exact plan in place and have had it for a long time. No one has complained about it and it was NEVER considered a "republican" idea.
In fact since Al Gore got beat, liberals have been SCREAMING for this plan.
Now it is true that Republicans have targeted states with this old plan in a way that would help them... but it is also true that dems wouldnt mind one bit, if it didnt help republicans.
having said that, I am VERY happy that this will not happen. we dont need to change anything about the system!
Actually, the liberal States, like California, have been planning on using the results of the national popular vote to determine their Electors, not just the popular votes of their own State. That is considerably different from what was being proposed, and different from both Maine and Nebraska.
Personally, I think it is a stupid idea since it will disenfranchise voters in their own State, but I cannot deny that they have the constitutional authority to select their Electors as their State legislature determines. If the want to select their Electors on a flip of a coin, they can. If they want to select their Electors on the day of the week, or the phase of the moon, they can.
It is entirely up to the State legislatures of each State to determine how their Electors are selected for the Electoral College.
Actually, the liberal States, like California, have been planning on using the results of the national popular vote to determine their Electors, not just the popular votes of their own State. That is considerably different from what was being proposed, and different from both Maine and Nebraska.
Personally, I think it is a stupid idea since it will disenfranchise voters in their own State, but I cannot deny that they have the constitutional authority to select their Electors as their State legislature determines. If the want to select their Electors on a flip of a coin, they can. If they want to select their Electors on the day of the week, or the phase of the moon, they can.
It is entirely up to the State legislatures of each State to determine how their Electors are selected for the Electoral College.
I agree with everything you said.
they can do what they want. there are many different ideas.
I personally think they are ALL bad. I like the system we have now. (and I want Main and Nebraska to change back to be like everybody else)
oh good grief. how many times do we have to say this is not "rigging" and is not a "republican" idea.
both Main and Nebraska have this exact plan in place and have had it for a long time. No one has complained about it and it was NEVER considered a "republican" idea.
In fact since Al Gore got beat, liberals have been SCREAMING for this plan.
Now it is true that Republicans have targeted states with this old plan in a way that would help them... but it is also true that dems wouldnt mind one bit, if it didnt help republicans.
having said that, I am VERY happy that this will not happen. we dont need to change anything about the system!
Few things, first off liberals were not screaming about this plan. After the Gore/Bush election, many liberals were screaming as you say about abolishing the electoral college not and going by popular vote not this plan.
Secondly, it is quite different than Maine and Nebraska due to the make up of both states. Fact of the matter is if a Democratic candidate is picking up any districts in Nebraska or a Republican candidate is picking up any districts in Maine the election is already long over. Not to mention GERRYMANDERING, Maine and Nebraska due not have gerrymandered districts. All of the states this has been discussed are Democratic states on the Presidential level, but with GOP gerrymanders in the Congressional districts.
the GOP doesnt need to change any laws, all they need to do is bus in their voters a couple of times a week like the democrats do.
althought it will be a lot harder, republicans are at work while the democrat parasites are at home smoking crack and beating their baby's mama.
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