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I sort of thought I've been saying it along.. harsher and faster penalties.
At the risk of incarcerating and executing the innocent?
Sorry, our constitution does not allow us to be like Iran. Our constitution protects the rights of those accused of crimes because we value due process, presumption of innocence, and a quest for the truth. In the past, and in current places like Iran, the government used its power to control the people. Here in America, the people rule - and no law can be enforced without the consent of the citizens.
The death penalty was supposed to be a deterrant - and has proved to be not. The fact that appeals proccesses delay executions is not an argument, because when the state takes a life, it had better be very sure that it is executing the right person. As you can see by perusing the Innocence Project - there are a lot of horror stories of people being wrongfully condemned. The system of appeals that came out of Gregg v. Georgia helps guard against such errors, but is less than perfect.
The death penalty must be abolished to truly wash our hands of any past and potential innocent blood.
If you really want to put a big dent in violence and crime - then a good place to begin would be by ending the misguided and failed War on Drugs.
At the risk of incarcerating and executing the innocent?
Sorry, our constitution does not allow us to be like Iran. Our constitution protects the rights of those accused of crimes because we value due process, presumption of innocence, and a quest for the truth. In the past, and in current places like Iran, the government used its power to control the people. Here in America, the people rule - and no law can be enforced without the consent of the citizens.
The death penalty was supposed to be a deterrant - and has proved to be not. The fact that appeals proccesses delay executions is not an argument, because when the state takes a life, it had better be very sure that it is executing the right person. As you can see by perusing the Innocence Project - there are a lot of horror stories of people being wrongfully condemned. The system of appeals that came out of Gregg v. Georgia helps guard against such errors, but is less than perfect.
The death penalty must be abolished.
If you really want to put a big dent in violence and crime - then a good place to begin would be by ending the misguided and failed War on Drugs.
Again, I understand some of your points and completely agree with your statement on the "war on drugs" , but it seems like you are completely forgetting the fact that our current penal system is doing nothing to curb violent crime and murder. Personally I think once one has been thru the court system and convicted they should lose all of their rights.
At the risk of incarcerating and executing the innocent?
Sorry, our constitution does not allow us to be like Iran. Our constitution protects the rights of those accused of crimes because we value due process, presumption of innocence, and a quest for the truth. In the past, and in current places like Iran, the government used its power to control the people. Here in America, the people rule - and no law can be enforced without the consent of the citizens.
The death penalty was supposed to be a deterrant - and has proved to be not. The fact that appeals proccesses delay executions is not an argument, because when the state takes a life, it had better be very sure that it is executing the right person. As you can see by perusing the Innocence Project - there are a lot of horror stories of people being wrongfully condemned. The system of appeals that came out of Gregg v. Georgia helps guard against such errors, but is less than perfect.
The death penalty must be abolished to truly wash our hands of any past and potential innocent blood.
If you really want to put a big dent in violence and crime - then a good place to begin would be by ending the misguided and failed War on Drugs.
I agree with you. Our taxpayer dollars are being flushed down the toilet incarcerating people for drug infractions. A complete waste of our money for no reason at all. However, the prison industries/corporations are doing quite nicely. They're among the most profitable corporations in the U.S.
The death penalty needs to be abolished. If it cannot be known with certainty that someone is guilty, then it's a mockery of law to execute anyone, and the proof is clearly at issue very often. The Innocence Project has identified a slew of people incorrect on death row due to bad representation, eyewitness lying or misidentification, fake and simply bad forensic science, false confessions due to harassment, informants that lie, and corrupt law enforcement officials who lie and misconstrue evidence, as well as corrupt prosecutors. As long as this is going on, there CANNOT be any form of death penalty, and yet there it is - a complete sham to the justice this country proclaims. What a country.
Again, I understand some of your points and completely agree with your statement on the "war on drugs" , but it seems like you are completely forgetting the fact that our current penal system is doing nothing to curb violent crime and murder. Personally I think once one has been thru the court system and convicted they should lose all of their rights.
Given that 68% of murders are committed with GUNS, there's a start. How do you shoot someone with a knife? (And I don't want to start a gun discussion, but it's f ridiculous that guns are so freely sold in a country that claims to be advanced).
Again, I understand some of your points and completely agree with your statement on the "war on drugs" , but it seems like you are completely forgetting the fact that our current penal system is doing nothing to curb violent crime and murder. Personally I think once one has been thru the court system and convicted they should lose all of their rights.
There would be far less murder and violent crime without the war on drugs. Not to mention a host of other things that are criminalized which should not be.
You also presume that the current justice system always renders fair and impartial justice, and that predatory police departments and crooked prosecutors do not pervert justice.
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