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Old 01-30-2013, 04:03 PM
 
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Actually no, you don't. Point out a lie I've said on here. You can't. Now move along.
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If you have an automobile that is continually causing accidents or death, you're going to take a look at that make & model & possibly recall it, are you not? Same simple logic applies.
Actually yes. It's either a lie or extreme ignorance, maybe both.

If you have an automobile that continually causes accidents you take a look at it and possibly recall it because it's doing something it wasn't designed to do. If the NTSB finds out that the Toyota Prius catches on fire they would force Toyota to recall it and fix that defect. If they found out that people driving cars drunk killed a few thousand people a year they wouldn't expect Toyota to fix the problem because the problem isn't caused by their product, it's user negligence. Those people are held responsible for their actions and are either fined or jailed because of it.

If a gun were to misfire causing an accident or it blows up in the owners hand it would be recalled and the problem would be figured out. That's not what is going on, guns are being used by a very small number of people negligently to shoot people without justification. That isn't the fault of the gun manufacturer and it's has nothing to do with a product defect so there's no logical reason to blame the gun. You blame the negligent person pulling the properly working trigger, you fine them and/or jail them for their actions.

Your comparison is ignorant, if we treated gun death just like car recalls in Chicago we would have to recall all male black teens because they are overwhelmingly responsible for gun deaths there.
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Old 01-30-2013, 04:05 PM
 
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Ban performing for obama!
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Old 01-30-2013, 04:06 PM
 
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Ban performing for obama!
Hahahah
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Old 01-30-2013, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Stuck in NE GA right now
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My thoughts are with the family the young girl.
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Old 01-30-2013, 04:09 PM
 
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Actually yes. It's either a lie or extreme ignorance, maybe both.

If you have an automobile that continually causes accidents you take a look at it and possibly recall it because it's doing something it wasn't designed to do. If the NTSB finds out that the Toyota Prius catches on fire they would force Toyota to recall it and fix that defect. If they found out that people driving cars drunk killed a few thousand people a year they wouldn't expect Toyota to fix the problem because the problem isn't caused by their product, it's user negligence. Those people are held responsible for their actions and are either fined or jailed because of it.

If a gun were to misfire causing an accident or it blows up in the owners hand it would be recalled and the problem would be figured out. That's not what is going on, guns are being used by a very small number of people negligently to shoot people without justification. That isn't the fault of the gun manufacturer and it's has nothing to do with a product defect so there's no logical reason to blame the gun. You blame the negligent person pulling the properly working trigger, you fine them and/or jail them for their actions.

Your comparison is ignorant, if we treated gun death just like car recalls in Chicago we would have to recall all male black teens because they are overwhelmingly responsible for gun deaths there.
Punishing gun manufacturers doesn't make sense. There are plenty of people who have guns who don't go out there and kill people for the sake of it. The "ban guns" or "go after the gun manufacturer" is too simplistic because it doesn't require addressing the root problems.
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Old 01-30-2013, 04:12 PM
 
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Doesn't stop people from exploting it to take jabs at Obama.
You mean like the way Democrats exploited the 20 murdered children in Newtown?

A bunch of sick people those Dem politicians who used it to push their agenda while families barely had time to start grieving
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Old 01-30-2013, 04:13 PM
 
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I'm stupid? I don't think so, but thanks for the personal insult. And again, sorry you don't understand.
I don't really want to get in to it with you, but clearly it's you who doesn't understand.

But i wouldn't know where to start explaining... Your analogy was that bad.
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Old 01-30-2013, 04:17 PM
 
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You mean like the way Democrats exploited the 20 murdered children in Newtown?

A bunch of sick people those Dem politicians who used it to push their agenda while families barely had time to start grieving
Exploitation is bad, whether it's done by Democrats or Republicans.
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Old 01-30-2013, 04:22 PM
 
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Wrong, the reason the politicians, like Obama, don't care, is because the murders in Chicago will not advance their political agenda. The problems in Chicago are not guns, racial bigotry, climate change, or a lack of green energy, the problems are crime, drugs, teenage unemployment, school drop out rates, desperation and poverty, Mexican drug cartels, inner city violence and a break down in the culture and society in those areas.
Politicians don't care and neither do most people. The people with the fake outrage should win an academy award for their performances. People on both sides are exploting this to push an agenda.
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Old 01-30-2013, 04:32 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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My thoughts are with the family the young girl.
This is the best post on this thread. What a shame; a terrible waste of a young life.

Can we take a minute and think about that before we use this as a platform to put forth our respective beliefs on current gun laws?
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