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So, as I already ask - a person who has been victimized by a GUN SHOOTING, should never be permitted to speak, because it is EVIDENCE of damage guns can do? Are you crazy? It is the BEST STATEMENT THAT CAN BE PROVIDED.
It seems Gabby Giffords really hit a raw nerve with the gun-fondlers here. I take their obvious discomfort as a good sign that Gabby is doing the right thing. Resorting to calling her names and dimissing her as just another lobbyist is beyond stupid... it's downright insane.
Special thanks goes to Dale, Roy, KuChief, Texan and others for providing a written record that gun freaks are out of touch with reality and gun control is badly needed.
It's coming.... oh yes.... stricter gun control is coming whether you like it or not, so get used to it, fools.
It seems Gabby Giffords really hit a raw nerve with the gun-fondlers here. I take their obvious discomfort as a good sign that Gabby is doing the right thing. Resorting to calling her names and dimissing her as just another lobbyist is beyond stupid... it's downright insane.
Special thanks goes to Dale, Roy, KuChief, Texan and others for providing a written record that gun freaks are out of touch with reality and gun control is badly needed.
It's coming.... oh yes.... stricter gun control is coming whether you like it or not, so get used to it, fools.
Deny, deflect and ignore and then resort to name calling when all else fails.
"Whatever it takes" is the mantra of the Dems.
Just don't go crying about bankster lobbyists or big pharma lobbyists getting their laws passed.
Super Pacs are people too you know.
None of us have even touched on the content of the debate here. It was about Gifford being the leader of a super PAC and lobbying to government right next to her peer, another lobbyist, LaPierre.
Is that your point your trying to make? That seems to be the way the left looks at lobbying. As long as it's for what you want it's all good. Obama was going to end it all too. How soon we forget. lol
Giffords is not lobbying to make gun manufacturers or any other industry wealthy, you don't understand the difference between someone trying to make the world a better place and an organization that represents the gun companies.
Rather despicable title for this thread to get a point across, if that is any indication of the people on the other side of the issue then the pro-gun control people are on the right side.
You really have to wonder what they would be saying had the dribbler been a Republican. They would be incredibly up in arms about how inappropriate for the person to testify.
Why? Why are you so weak and pathetic that you have to refer to her like that?
Does it make you feel powerful? Does it make you feel important and more worthwhile to refer to a woman who has suffered like she has - or anyone, for that matter - in that manner?
When I see things like that, it makes me realize there are truly people in this world who are a total waste of oxygen.
Why? Why are you so weak and pathetic that you have to refer to her like that?
Does it make you feel powerful? Does it make you feel important and more worthwhile to refer to a woman who has suffered like she has - or anyone, for that matter - in that manner?
When I see things like that, it makes me realize there are truly people in this world who are a total waste of oxygen.
Oh so now lobbyists are OK since you agree with them ?
LOL..then don't complain when bank lobbyists get laws passed in their favor..ok ?
You people have no principals whatsoever.
You didn't direct this to me, but you have no freaking clue what you're talking about. There's nothing wrong with lobbyists themselves. I was a lobbyist at one point in time. Not much would get done in state houses and on the federal level without them, because their job is to advocate for groups they represent by bringing up issues that impact their clients, and educating elected officials on those issues. Churches have lobbyists. So do groups like the YMCA and Girl Scouts. There's absolutely nothing wrong with citizens banding together as a group and hiring a spokesperson to work the capital to address their needs. The problem comes in with CONTRIBUTIONS. When lobbyists can promise big campaign bucks or cushy board seats to loyal politicians when they retire, they start buying votes, even if it's done on a wink and a nudge basis where everyone pretends that's not what's happening.
Giffords is not lobbying to make gun manufacturers or any other industry wealthy, you don't understand the difference between someone trying to make the world a better place and an organization that represents the gun companies.
Rather despicable title for this thread to get a point across, if that is any indication of the people on the other side of the issue then the pro-gun control people are on the right side.
So setting a goal to have $20 million by the 2014 elections so you can back anti-gun politicians up for elections in various states is making the world better ?
Sounds more like they are trying to stack the deck here and using $$$$ to do it.
Why? Why are you so weak and pathetic that you have to refer to her like that?
Does it make you feel powerful? Does it make you feel important and more worthwhile to refer to a woman who has suffered like she has - or anyone, for that matter - in that manner?
When I see things like that, it makes me realize there are truly people in this world who are a total waste of oxygen.
Sociopath.
Yeah, Dale is a real class act all right. She fits in well with the OP and a few others in this thread. If you want to talk about what's wrong with our culture, look no further than some of the despicable posters in this thread.
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There's absolutely nothing wrong with citizens banding together as a group and hiring a spokesperson to work the capital to address their needs. The problem comes in with CONTRIBUTIONS. When lobbyists can promise big campaign bucks or cushy board seats to loyal politicians when they retire, they start buying votes, even if it's done on a wink and a nudge basis where everyone pretends that's not what's happening.