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Old 02-01-2013, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Originally Posted by Magritte25 View Post
It's funny. This article was all over Facebook. Just this article. From CNS. I'd think this type of news would be all over the place.
Bu- bu- but, it's on the internet, it has to be true, right?
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Old 02-01-2013, 01:05 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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http://www.irs.gov/PUP/newsroom/REG-148500-12%20FR.pdf

Page 56, Example 2.

(yawn) took about three minutes to find it.....

Either the family has to pay it, or (as the example implies) some other taxpayer will have to pay a large chunk of the guy's costs in addition to the taxpayers's own $20,000 costs!

So, again, liberals, where do you expect families to find this extra $20,000/year to pay for the health care coverage you are forcing on them?
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Old 02-01-2013, 01:06 PM
 
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As long as libs remain as ignorant as possible, then any bad news must be all lies.

“The annual national average bronze plan premium for a family of 5 (2 adults, 3 children) is $20,000,” the regulation says.

Shared Responsibility Payment for Not Maintaining Minimum Essential Coverage - PDF

Example 2. Married employee with dependents. Taxpayers B and C are married and file a joint return for 2016. B and C have two children, D and E. In November 2015, B is eligible to enroll in self-only coverage under a plan offered by B’s employer for calendar year 2016 at a cost of $5,000 to B. C, D, and E are eligible to enroll in family coverage under the same plan for 2016 at a cost of $20,000 to B. B, C, D, and E’s household income is $90,000. Under paragraph (e)(3)(ii)(A) of this section, B's required contribution is B's share of the cost for self-only coverage, $5,000. Under paragraph (e)(1) of this section, B has affordable coverage for 2016 because B’s required contribution ($5,000) does not exceed 8 percent of B’s household income ($7,200). Under paragraph (e)(3)(ii)(B) of this section, the required contribution for C, D, and E is B's share of the cost for family coverage, $20,000. Under paragraph (e)(1) of this section, C, D, and E lack affordable coverage for 2016 because their required contribution ($20,000) exceeds 8 percent of their household income ($7,200).
What you have posted is an example showing that C, D & E would be exempt, because the cost of the employer-provided insurance exceeds 8% of their household income.
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Old 02-01-2013, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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http://www.irs.gov/PUP/newsroom/REG-148500-12%20FR.pdf

Page 56, Example 2.

(yawn) took about three minutes to find it.....
And it does not say that the "Cheapest Obamacare Plan Will Be $20,000 Per Family."

The thread title is a lie, and the OP is unadulterated bull****.
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Old 02-01-2013, 01:14 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Little-Acorn View Post
http://www.irs.gov/PUP/newsroom/REG-148500-12%20FR.pdf

Page 56, Example 2.

(yawn) took about three minutes to find it.....

Either the family has to pay it, or (as the example implies) some other taxpayer will have to pay a large chunk of the guy's costs in addition to the taxpayers's own $20,000 costs!

So, again, liberals, where do you expect families to find this extra $20,000/year to pay for the health care coverage you are forcing on them?
Oh my god. Is that how fringe website's get their info? From an example used to clarify rules?

SMDH.
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Old 02-01-2013, 01:20 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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And it does not say that the "Cheapest Obamacare Plan Will Be $20,000 Per Family."
Page 70, example 3.

You liberal fanatics are really trying as hard as you can, to avoid reading what's right in front of your face, aren't you?

I suppose I can't blame you. If you couldn't tell lies about what your ideology requires, you wouldn't have anything good to say about it at all.

It's never been easy to be a liberal in this country.

And now that the uberliberal Obama government has to actually put down on paper what it wants to do, it's getting a lot harder.
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Old 02-01-2013, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Originally Posted by Little-Acorn View Post
Page 70, example 3.
There is a reason you're not quoting it. It still doesn't say what the thread title says.

The title is still a lie, and the OP is still bull****.
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Old 02-01-2013, 01:26 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Still doesn't say what the thread title says.
I'm afraid it does. Better luck next time.

So again, liberals, how do you expect families to pay this extra $20,000/year that you are forcing on them?
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Old 02-01-2013, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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I'm afraid it does. Better luck next time.
Don't be a cretin.

Thread title says: "Cheapest Obamacare Plan Will Be $20,000 Per Family."

Hypothetical example says: "The annual national average bronze plan premium for a family of 5 (2 adults, 3 children) is $20,000."

When you figure out the difference between a "cheapest" plan and an "average" plan, then you will have risen to the conceptual level of a third grader and we will no longer be obligated to call you names and laugh at you behind your back.
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Old 02-01-2013, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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Originally Posted by txgolfer130 View Post
More extremist hyperbole.



And the fines for not buying that "$20,000" policy are between $695 & $3,000 depending upon your Net Income.
Someone has to pay the difference
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