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Old 02-02-2013, 01:16 AM
 
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The average hourly non-farm wage in the United States is $23.78. That equals to $49,462 per individual OR $98,924 per two worker household ANNUALLY!

There is absolutely NO REASON why the average worker in the United States cannot live off of these wages.

In fact, with these wages, and when personal responsibility is factored into the equation, there's absolutely no reason for single-parent families, children born out of wedlock, Medicaid, WIC, Welfare, or Food Stamps.

The AVERAGE worker makes $49,462 per year and yet we have liberals belly-aching over minimum wage and people barely able to make ends meet???? Who's fault is that?!

Get off your lazy asses and DO SOMETHING with your unproductive lives! There's money to be made out there!


Employment, Hours, and Earnings from the Current Employment Statistics survey (National) Home Page

Using the average wage doesn't tell you what most people actually earn. The median wage is more accurate.

Wage Statistics for 2010

The "raw" average wage, computed as net compensation divided by the number of wage earners, is $6,009,831,055,912.11 divided by 150,398,796, or $39,959.30. Based on data in the table below, about 66.2 percent of wage earners had net compensation less than or equal to the $39,959.30 raw average wage. By definition, 50 percent of wage earners had net compensation less than or equal to the median wage, which is estimated to be $26,363.55 for 2010

So the median wage per hour based on full time working hours is $12.67.
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Old 02-02-2013, 06:35 AM
 
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Oh say your saying they should be silenced?
Wouldn't it be more productive for them to use the energy it takes to whine and complain about self-inflicted low-incomes, to work at upgrading their skill-sets, etc.?
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Old 02-02-2013, 07:58 AM
 
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should I say you lie....or should I just call you a dumb liberal


Introducing the hundreds of NYC sanitation workers who earn more than $100,000 | The Daily Caller
You can call me anything you want, but your assertion is a lie. Period, point blank. And you knew it when you postulated it. The quoted post below basically blows your lame ass assertion out of the water.
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from your quote



You should read your links more carefully before you start attacking liberals. 315 out of 8,841 workers, and your link does not even provide proof that this is even true, it links to Business Insider, and their article is just as bland as The daily callers site, so i clicked on the SeethroughNewYork link and they dont even show the numbers claimed by the 2 articles.

the only thing i see on SEEthroughNewYork's link is that 400 City workers make over 100,000 a year not sanitation alone. thats 400 out of 250,000.

smdh, this is why we liberals just decide not to argue with cons sometimes. You guys name call and dont even have a leg to stand on in an argument.
LOL...amazing how these knuckleheads will believe anything so long as it comports with their b.s.

No one in America with a tiny amount of common sense believes that sanitation workers "routinely" take home the salary of a licensed Pharmacist. That's absurd on its face.

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Using the average wage doesn't tell you what most people actually earn. The median wage is more accurate.

Wage Statistics for 2010

The "raw" average wage, computed as net compensation divided by the number of wage earners, is $6,009,831,055,912.11 divided by 150,398,796, or $39,959.30. Based on data in the table below, about 66.2 percent of wage earners had net compensation less than or equal to the $39,959.30 raw average wage. By definition, 50 percent of wage earners had net compensation less than or equal to the median wage, which is estimated to be $26,363.55 for 2010

So the median wage per hour based on full time working hours is $12.67.
$12.67 sure as hell sounds more like it. How anyone could believe that 23 bucks an hour is some sort of norm is out of their minds and isn't living in the real world with the rest of us. Tons of very skilled people don't make that kind of money.
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Wouldn't it be more productive for them to use the energy it takes to whine and complain about self-inflicted low-incomes, to work at upgrading their skill-sets, etc.?
Again, this idea that upgrading your skill set ='s more dough is a load of bullocks. It's simply not true in all cases. That is not the world we live in universally. It's true for some individuals, but nowhere close to being true for all people. Hell, my son is a school teacher with a Master's Degree and isn't making any more than he would had he not gotten his graduate degree. How comforting, since i shelled out an additional 15k for the year of grad school. Now i'm sure that the degree will pay off later, but by his own admission, that's many years down the road.

I'm a middle manager at a defense contractor, and there are people working under my supervision with far more education than i have that are making 20k a year less than me. Some of these things are simple luck of the draw....it's not always about upgrading the skill set.
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Old 02-02-2013, 08:02 AM
 
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Wouldn't it be more productive for them to use the energy it takes to whine and complain about self-inflicted low-incomes, to work at upgrading their skill-sets, etc.?

Education and training cost money. I don't have money, and they demand cash up front.
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Old 02-02-2013, 08:18 AM
 
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Again, this idea that upgrading your skill set ='s more dough is a load of bullocks. It's simply not true in all cases. That is not the world we live in universally. It's true for some individuals, but nowhere close to being true for all people. Hell, my son is a school teacher with a Master's Degree and isn't making any more than he would had he not gotten his graduate degree.
That's an automatic pay bump here. Does he teach in public or private?
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How comforting, since i shelled out an additional 15k for the year of grad school. Now i'm sure that the degree will pay off later, but by his own admission, that's many years down the road.
*Gasp*... you mean earning more takes more effort AND more time? No. Really?

Liberal mantra: "Gimme, gimme, gimme, NOW!!!"
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Old 02-02-2013, 08:23 AM
 
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Education and training cost money. I don't have money, and they demand cash up front.
Work your way up through the ranks. Millions have done so.

It's ridiculous to remain stagnant as a burger flipper and convenience store clerk. Too many excuses. Not enough proactive effort.
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Old 02-02-2013, 08:29 AM
 
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Education and training cost money. I don't have money, and they demand cash up front.
Don't you have a college degree?
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Old 02-02-2013, 09:13 AM
 
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Education and training cost money. I don't have money, and they demand cash up front.
There are options for people in the predicament you claim to be in. You could take out an education or business loan but you would have to believe in yourself to go out on that limb and it appears you do not. Also, there are many kinds of grants for education and business for people like you. Some are public, some are private.

However, it wouldn't do you any good anyway as long as you wallow in the self-defeating victimhood you have displayed in this thread. I would rather see grants go to those with the intellect and determination to improve their lives.
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Old 02-02-2013, 10:17 AM
 
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That's an automatic pay bump here. Does he teach in public or private? *Gasp*... you mean earning more takes more effort AND more time? No. Really?

Liberal mantra: "Gimme, gimme, gimme, NOW!!!"
Now you're being stupid.

First you say that its an automatic pay bump where you live, but at the same time, you wanna dismiss me as a liberal fool for expecting that my son would make more by getting his Masters.

You wanted the award for a-hole of the year, and it looks like you just might win it.

Anyway, he teaches at a charter school.
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Old 02-02-2013, 10:22 AM
 
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Now you're being stupid.

First you say that its an automatic pay bump where you live, but at the same time, you wanna dismiss me as a liberal fool for expecting that my son would make more by getting his Masters.
Depends on the requirement for the position. Some teaching positions actually do require more than an undergrad degree. Now who's being stupid.

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Anyway, he teaches at a charter school.
Public? A master's degree should be an automatic pay bump unless the position requires a master's degree at a minimum.
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