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Old 02-04-2013, 02:44 PM
 
Location: South Dakota
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Originally Posted by detwahDJ View Post
Some interesting and strange sentiment here with no explanation for any of it.
** Obama the commie.
Yep, "Spread the wealth around", except with 0bama his BS is usually the exact opposite of what he says...
** "Fantasy accounting" by somebody.
By regulators that allowed banks to suspend mark to market accounting....
** "Legalized fraud" by somebody.
Robosigning, Corzine, Libor scandal, TARP, Green energy scams, GM/Chrysler bailouts, HFT, ect...
** Unlimited easy money from the Fed and Congress to somebody.
International bankers...

In this rotten economy:
Now you don't have to work? I refuse to work....
Obama made you quit your job? The nanny state and out of control regulations and corporate BS, along with the impending doom that was easy to see coming made me quit my job...
Now you're a successful investor?
Yep so far...

So much intrigue here.
0bama sadly is just a symptom of the idiots that voted for him...

 
Old 02-04-2013, 02:53 PM
 
Location: South Dakota
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So basically what you're saying is that the 1.5 million jobs shed in the 4th quarter of 2008 were in anticipation of an Obama presidency.

Not only is this theory beyond ridiculous, it doesn't begin to explain the 1.1 million jobs lost between December 2007-Sept 2008.

Inflation and record oil prices had a lot to do with it along with Pelosi taking over the house....

Right around then the "liberals" rolled out the "Smoke free workplace", that caused a lot of businesses to close up shop too...


YES WE CAN!!! Geez that just made a lot of people hang it up and quit...

Nor does it explain the economic recovery, which has seen 34 consecutive months of job growth since the bottom fell out in '08-'09. Why would companies fire employees in anticipation of Obama, only to rehire them during Obama's presidency? The ideas some of you come up with...oofah.
There has been no recovery, in fact the unemployment rate is 7.9% now compared to 7.8 when Zero was elected...

The next leg down of the 0bama depression will be underway soon enough sadly...
 
Old 02-04-2013, 06:41 PM
 
Location: west mich
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There has been no recovery, in fact the unemployment rate is 7.9% now compared to 7.8 when Zero was elected...

The next leg down of the 0bama depression will be underway soon enough sadly...
Wow, you just ignore all data presented don't you.
** The "economy" is not just "unemployment".
** Unemployment was on the rise when Obama took office.

Here's some more for you to ignore.
Unemployment:
You and Fox are correct that unemployment was at 7.8%. This is Fox's clever little ploy to dole out self-validation for its apostolic viewers. Unemployment was swiftly rising the day Obama took office - thanks to the Bush administration. Explain how he was supposed to check that trend immediately. It peaked in October at 11% then gradually came down to today's level - even over repubs attempting to kill jobs.
CHART: Bush Vs. Obama On Private And Public Sector Job Creation | ThinkProgress

Chart of the Day: Bush Vs. Obama on Private Sector Jobs ‹ I Acknowledge Class Warfare Exists

Here's the right-wing chart. Notice the bar graph which cleverly disguises the swiftly-rising unemployment rate in 2008, and a deficit chart which conveniently leaves out war expenditures. They love to promote these.
http://the-american-journal.com/char...nual-deficits/

Public sector employment, decreased by 600,000 jobs since 2009 adding to the unemployment numbers - exactly what repubs want - yet they complain about "unemployment" as a whole under Obama.
Private sector job growth - up from Bush, while at the same time congressional repubs kill jobs bills. See an agenda here?
Under Bush, government employment increased by 1.7 million, private employment decreased by 0.6 million. Under Obama, government employment has decreased by 0.6 million and private employment has increased by 0.3 million. So who is the "conservative" here?

The economy:
Analysis: Obama presidency great for stocks. Will it help him? | Reuters

How Much Credit Does Obama Deserve for the Stock Market Recovery? - Derek Thompson - The Atlantic
You crow about your own stocks' performance and your disdain for "Obama's economy" in the same breath.
It's the same economy that repubs are trying to destroy for their own political capital, a stimulus bill watered down by repubs for the same purpose. All this slow growth despite the ongoing republican attempted sabotage - 400 filibusters to kill any legislation that middle-class Americans might like.
 
Old 02-04-2013, 08:31 PM
 
Location: South Dakota
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Originally Posted by detwahDJ View Post
Wow, you just ignore all data presented don't you.
** The "economy" is not just "unemployment".
** Unemployment was on the rise when Obama took office.

Here's some more for you to ignore.
Unemployment:
You and Fox are correct that unemployment was at 7.8%. This is Fox's clever little ploy to dole out self-validation for its apostolic viewers. Unemployment was swiftly rising the day Obama took office - thanks to the Bush administration. Explain how he was supposed to check that trend immediately. It peaked in October at 11% then gradually came down to today's level - even over repubs attempting to kill jobs.
CHART: Bush Vs. Obama On Private And Public Sector Job Creation | ThinkProgress

Chart of the Day: Bush Vs. Obama on Private Sector Jobs ‹ I Acknowledge Class Warfare Exists

Here's the right-wing chart. Notice the bar graph which cleverly disguises the swiftly-rising unemployment rate in 2008, and a deficit chart which conveniently leaves out war expenditures. They love to promote these.
http://the-american-journal.com/char...nual-deficits/

Like I said Zero and Pelosi and the gang lead many to close up shop and prepare for the Barak-0-lypse, It wasn't hard to see coming and many did just fine with their investments... I certainly did....


Public sector employment, decreased by 600,000 jobs since 2009 adding to the unemployment numbers - exactly what repubs want - yet they complain about "unemployment" as a whole under Obama.
Private sector job growth - up from Bush, while at the same time congressional repubs kill jobs bills. See an agenda here?
Under Bush, government employment increased by 1.7 million, private employment decreased by 0.6 million. Under Obama, government employment has decreased by 0.6 million and private employment has increased by 0.3 million. So who is the "conservative" here?

Government is not supposed to "create jobs", the only reason there was any kind of so called "recovery" was because Zero's "Cap and Tax" scam failed even under full Democrat control...

Then the Tea Party took over the house with a historic win and it appeared Zerocare would be ruled unconstitutional... That and the FED QE is the only reason there has been an illusion of "recovery"....

The economy:
Analysis: Obama presidency great for stocks. Will it help him? | Reuters

It very well may have helped him but he had nothing to do with it and if he was gone the market would likely be much higher...

How Much Credit Does Obama Deserve for the Stock Market Recovery? - Derek Thompson - The Atlantic
You crow about your own stocks' performance and your disdain for "Obama's economy" in the same breath.
It's the same economy that repubs are trying to destroy for their own political capital, a stimulus bill watered down by repubs for the same purpose. All this slow growth despite the ongoing republican attempted sabotage - 400 filibusters to kill any legislation that middle-class Americans might like.
"Stimulus" bills do nothing as we have seen but funnel $$$ to corrupt bankrupt "liberal" states and unions...

Now that were looking at the nightmare of 4 more years of 0bama and his Zerocare plan, regulatory hell, trillion or more deficits and never ending Zirp and QE forever, and general 0bamalaise, ect...

2008 will look like the good old days...
 
Old 02-04-2013, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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There has been no recovery, in fact the unemployment rate is 7.9% now compared to 7.8 when Zero was elected...

The next leg down of the 0bama depression will be underway soon enough sadly...
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Originally Posted by Earlyretired View Post
"Stimulus" bills do nothing as we have seen but funnel $$$ to corrupt bankrupt "liberal" states and unions...

Now that were looking at the nightmare of 4 more years of 0bama and his Zerocare plan, regulatory hell, trillion or more deficits and never ending Zirp and QE forever, and general 0bamalaise, ect...

2008 will look like the good old days...
No recovery, huh?

2008 will look like the good old days, huh?

Facts differ with your opinion.











 
Old 02-04-2013, 09:01 PM
 
Location: South Dakota
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No recovery, huh?

2008 will look like the good old days, huh?

Facts differ with your opinion.
Thats all we get for almost 7 trillion dollars
 
Old 02-04-2013, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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Thats all we get for almost 7 trillion dollars
Bush doubled the debt and LOST jobs.
 
Old 02-04-2013, 09:37 PM
 
Location: South Dakota
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Bush doubled the debt and LOST jobs.
Bush sucked too, Republicans sucked Democrats sucked, the whole corrupt government sucks... When will you stop worshiping it???

You cant blame it on Bush anymore...
 
Old 02-04-2013, 11:43 PM
 
Location: west mich
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Thats all we get for almost 7 trillion dollars
Where do you pull these figures from? You read nothing and present nothing - you just pontificate.
Why not contribute something.
 
Old 02-04-2013, 11:50 PM
 
Location: South Dakota
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Originally Posted by detwahDJ View Post
Where do you pull these figures from? You read nothing and present nothing - you just pontificate.
Why not contribute something.
Well we had roughly 9-10 trillion in debt when 0bama took over, now we have near 17 trillion...

Simple math...

If things are so great why not cut off the 99 weeks of unemployment back to 23 weeks and do an overhaul on the food stamp program and all the rest of the "free ****"???

We could also quit the QE's and raise interest rates too right???
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