First Victim Of UnConstitutional NY Gun Law: Decorated Army Veteran Arrested For Having Five AR-15 Magazines In Vehicle (illegal aliens, weapons)
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There are several things in the OP that are missing but are now apparent especially the little detail that was left out that the mags were stamped for military use only.
I'd say if that's the truth of the story then he gets whatever he gets.
The only time mags were stamped "for military use only" that I know of was back during the last idiotic Clinton semi-auto and magazine ban. The military and police were exempt from the rules the rest of us had to follow (civilians were limited to 10 rounders). To get around that, manufacturers had to mark mags as you said to sell them to the military. When that foolish law expired in '04, the restrictions on ownership of the "marked" mags went away. As such, there were no laws broken by their possession.
As sad and tragic as the entire story is...I have to ask. What the hell is a "vehicle check"? Does New York State now do random vehicle stops and searches? That hellhole was nearly a police state when I left 20 years ago, it sounds like it's gotten far worse. Given that New York City politics drags down the entire state. Someplace where the citizens allow random stop and frisk checks, and allow the government to tell them what they can eat or drink, is past being a police state in the first place. It's amazing how mindless the sheep actually are.
There's a discrepancy in reports. The rightwing blogs are saying he was pulled over randomly for a "vehicle check" and that he stupidly consented to it. The news is reporting he was sitting in a parked car at a closed business at night, and a cop approached him to ask what he was doing. He then apparently was honest with the cop and said he was meeting a guy to sell him some rifle magazines.
The only time mags were stamped "for military use only" that I know of was back during the last idiotic Clinton semi-auto and magazine ban. The military and police were exempt from the rules the rest of us had to follow (civilians were limited to 10 rounders). To get around that, manufacturers had to mark mags as you said to sell them to the military. When that foolish law expired in '04, the restrictions on ownership of the "marked" mags went away. As such, there were no laws broken by their possession.
First of all he is a civilian, not military so he should not have them in his possesion period, military and police can't tak 30 round magazines home on the weekends. Tell me the law that expired allowing 30 round magazines in NY. Additionally he was selling his AR-15, no law against that but that is exactly the problem if he transferred his gun to a stranger.
This might as well be an add for making all transfers going through FFL's.
As sad and tragic as the entire story is...I have to ask. What the hell is a "vehicle check"? Does New York State now do random vehicle stops and searches? That hellhole was nearly a police state when I left 20 years ago, it sounds like it's gotten far worse. Given that New York City politics drags down the entire state. Someplace where the citizens allow random stop and frisk checks, and allow the government to tell them what they can eat or drink, is past being a police state in the first place. It's amazing how mindless the sheep actually are.
Thats what I wondered to. Vehicle check? What, a DUI checkpoint maybe? Or some Soviet style "papers please" thing? At any rate, there are tons of those stamped mags in circulation. Stuff that was surplussed out before the ban. Same with a lot of guns and parts. It's not unusual to see a 1911 or M1/ M1A stamped "US property". The markings mean nothing.
The original link the OP posted is no longer there, he should have know the law as it has been in place since 1994, no exceptions for veterans. To make matters worse he was selling the magazines to another person, who knows if he would have checked his background and the magazines were for "military use only" so ignorance is kind of difficult to justify. Illegal sale and transfer of guns and magazine are exactly how these end up in criminal hans.
First of all he is a civilian, not military so he should not have them in his possesion period, military and police can't tak 30 round magazines home on the weekends. Tell me the law that expired allowing 30 round magazines in NY. Additionally he was selling his AR-15, no law against that but that is exactly the problem if he transferred his gun to a stranger.
This might as well be an add for making all transfers going through FFL's.
It's rather apparent that knowledge/understanding of the actual laws in force is murky at best right now to many on this board who have the full resources of the 'net right at their fingertips. That being the case is it at all surprising that the accused could be confused as well?
At this point it seems there's not enough or conflicting information about exactly what happened for anyone to have an informed opinion, time to sit back and see what happens next.
First of all I want to say this. The man is named Nathan Haddad. He is a wounded combat veteran, a retired Army Staff Sergeant who served at Fort Drum, New York. Under his belt, he has had multiple deployments to Afghanistan and spent 12 years serving his country. There is no question in doubt, he is a patriot. The man should be 'RESPECTED' for wearing the uniform. We all 'OWE' him our complete gratitude for his sacrifice in his gallant effort of doing his duty fighting for the United States of America, just like we do with all troops. With that out of the way, the first thing Mr. Haddad did was make the mistake of giving consent to the State Police to search his vehicle during the vehicle checkpoint. Always feel free to exercise your constitutional 4th Amendment protection rights, especially you past and present soldiers out there. You've earned that right.
Now here is what is screwed up. Haddad was arrested on Jan. 6, roughly 10 days before New York passed the new draconian gun laws. But after reading the law last night, it appears the New York legislature back-dated it to 1 January. It appears if a New Yorker bought one of these weapons or extra 'standard' issue high capacity magazines (and many have) that go with the assault rifle, and waited the multi-day wait period to take possession of the rifle, all are now a potential felon. Turns out that according to the language of the bill, these buyers broke the law before there even was a law. Another notable item in this hastily passed law is there is no exemption for LEOs or military. That means that virtually every N.Y. LEO, Guardsman, or regular military service member are now considered a felon because they have 'standard' 30 round magazines as part of their required weapon kit.
A town of LeRay man was accused Sunday of possessing high-capacity magazines for an assault rifle.
Jefferson County Sheriff's deputies say 32 year old Nathan Haddad allegedly had five 30-round magazines for an AR-15 rifle in his possession. Police say the magazines were found during a vehicle check on Steinhilber Road in the town of LeRay.
Haddad was charged with five counts of third degree criminal possession of a weapon
If he made a decision to become a criminal, let him face the consequences and let a jury decide. What he did as a soldier has nothing to do with a criminal act committed afterwards.
First of all I want to say this. The man is named Nathan Haddad. He is a wounded combat veteran, a retired Army Staff Sergeant who served at Fort Drum, New York. Under his belt, he has had multiple deployments to Afghanistan and spent 12 years serving his country. There is no question in doubt, he is a patriot. The man should be 'RESPECTED' for wearing the uniform. We all 'OWE' him our complete gratitude for his sacrifice in his gallant effort of doing his duty fighting for the United States of America, just like we do with all troops. With that out of the way, the first thing Mr. Haddad did was make the mistake of giving consent to the State Police to search his vehicle during the vehicle checkpoint. Always feel free to exercise your constitutional 4th Amendment protection rights, especially you past and present soldiers out there. You've earned that right.
Now here is what is screwed up. Haddad was arrested on Jan. 6, roughly 10 days before New York passed the new draconian gun laws. But after reading the law last night, it appears the New York legislature back-dated it to 1 January. It appears if a New Yorker bought one of these weapons or extra 'standard' issue high capacity magazines (and many have) that go with the assault rifle, and waited the multi-day wait period to take possession of the rifle, all are now a potential felon. Turns out that according to the language of the bill, these buyers broke the law before there even was a law. Another notable item in this hastily passed law is there is no exemption for LEOs or military. That means that virtually every N.Y. LEO, Guardsman, or regular military service member are now considered a felon because they have 'standard' 30 round magazines as part of their required weapon kit.
A town of LeRay man was accused Sunday of possessing high-capacity magazines for an assault rifle.
Jefferson County Sheriff's deputies say 32 year old Nathan Haddad allegedly had five 30-round magazines for an AR-15 rifle in his possession. Police say the magazines were found during a vehicle check on Steinhilber Road in the town of LeRay.
Haddad was charged with five counts of third degree criminal possession of a weapon
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, quit buying into the anti gunners deception and using false words, with the constant use of "assault rifle". An AR-15 is NOT an ASSAULT RIFLE.
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