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Old 02-05-2013, 03:34 PM
 
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I don't buy this crap. Whats left California? OR? Washington? Michigan? either expensive or in the case of Michigan its cold and crap.
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Old 02-05-2013, 03:38 PM
 
Location: 9851 Meadowglen Lane, Apt 42, Houston Texas
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I don't buy this crap. Whats left California? OR? Washington? Michigan? either expensive or in the case of Michigan its cold and crap.
Beautiful countryside in all those states. Especially Oregon, which is very remote. Their biggest city is not big at all and close to the Washington border. Some nice cities in California but you pay for it.
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Old 02-05-2013, 03:47 PM
 
Location: One of the 13 original colonies.
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Come on down! It's 65 degrees here today. About to go do a little work in my yard...


That's just about perfect. Have fun in the yard.
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Old 02-05-2013, 04:10 PM
 
Location: SW Missouri
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I don't know about articles that are written by people who have never lived in the states they are condemning as "awful". I have lived in Missouri many years, and visited Arkansas often, both of them would be a fine place to live, if you were to ask me.

Frankly, I love the South and as a retiree, I would think that the fact that people are, generally speaking, friendlier, and certainly the pace of life is much slower, would be quite attractive to an older person.

20yrsinBranson
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Old 02-05-2013, 04:13 PM
 
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Do you think California created its good weather and coastlines?

Every state has good and bad features completely owed to mother nature.

Texas benefits from its oil and natural gas. Don't forget its farmland and ranches. Its state government has evolved to leverage its strengths.

Michigan is a blue state. So is Illinois. Are these states humming along? Yup those public schools are in good shape. Crime too. Are their problems caused by geography?
I want what you're smoking.....
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Old 02-05-2013, 04:17 PM
 
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There are a lot of states that sit on gas and oil reserves, yet are doing crappy. So no, just having those resources available doesn't guarantee a good economy.

It doesn't matter what wages are. It only matters what wages are in relation to cost of living.
Which states would those be?

And the wage/cost of living argument is overused by people that live in low wage states.

Look, I get that 10 bucks an hour is horrible in San Francisco, but guess what? It's horrible EVERYWHERE! You're not gonna live well off of that wage anywhere in Texas or elsewhere. A crappy wage is just that. Saying that a gallon of milk is cheaper in a low wage area doesn't help the argument much.

Now if the argument shifts to something like how far 50k a year goes in different locales, I'm game. But I'm not about to argue about low wages being okay because the local cost of living is cheap.
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Old 02-05-2013, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Upper East Side of Texas
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Shocker. They are all Red States. And somehow I'm supposed to listen to people from these states when they tell me how the country should be run?

10 Worst States For Retirement | Bankrate.com
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Texas has some of the nicest areas of the country to retire in...Central Texas/Hill Country & East Texas both offer the best medical services & amenities for retirees this country has. Golfing in East Texas is HUGELY popular as is fishing & hunting.
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Old 02-05-2013, 04:46 PM
 
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I don't know about articles that are written by people who have never lived in the states they are condemning as "awful". I have lived in Missouri many years, and visited Arkansas often, both of them would be a fine place to live, if you were to ask me.

Frankly, I love the South and as a retiree, I would think that the fact that people are, generally speaking, friendlier, and certainly the pace of life is much slower, would be quite attractive to an older person.

20yrsinBranson
People are not friendlier in the south and the pace of life isn't slower there either. Why do people keep saying this stuff? It's RIDICULOUS!!

Small town life in Missouri is no slower on average than small town life in Pennsylvania. The friendliest people I've ever met are the folks met in Maine, Oregon, and Washington state...hands down.

The south does not have the market cornered on hospitality. I don't know why folks keep saying that.
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Old 02-05-2013, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Wonderland
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People are not friendlier in the south and the pace of life isn't slower there either. Why do people keep saying this stuff? It's RIDICULOUS!!

Small town life in Missouri is no slower on average than small town life in Pennsylvania. The friendliest people I've ever met are the folks met in Maine, Oregon, and Washington state...hands down.

The south does not have the market cornered on hospitality. I don't know why folks keep saying that.
I take it you're basing your opinion on your own personal experiences - hence the examples you gave. Other people are probably doing the same when they "keep saying that" people are friendlier in the south and the pace of life is slower.

It's been my experience that the former statement is true. So to me - it's not a ridiculous statement. You can never "prove to me" that you're right and I can never "prove to you" that I'm right.

Now - I've never personally heard anyone say that the South has the market cornered on hospitality. BBQ perhaps - but not hospitality. There are nice people - and jerks - just about everywhere.

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Old 02-05-2013, 06:09 PM
 
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I take it you're basing your opinion on your own personal experiences - hence the examples you gave. Other people are probably doing the same when they "keep saying that" people are friendlier in the south and the pace of life is slower.

It's been my experience that the former statement is true. So to me - it's not a ridiculous statement. You can never "prove to me" that you're right and I can never "prove to you" that I'm right.

Now - I've never personally heard anyone say that the South has the market cornered on hospitality. BBQ perhaps - but not hospitality. There are nice people - and jerks - just about everywhere.

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I'm simply stating that in the U.S., urban/suburban people Re generally the same and carry the same general attitudes and rural Americans are exactly the same way. Rural people in southern states aren't any different than rural people anywhere else. I just don't understand why so many people don't realize that.

Friendliness has more to do with one's own attitude than anything else. The south has the same cross section of jerks as everywhere else.
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