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Old 06-03-2013, 07:15 AM
 
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Homosexuals are called sodomites in the Bible, and were called that centuries after the notoriously evil and perverted cities of Sodom and Gommorah were destroyed by God for their immorality.
The sin of Sodom was being inhospitable to strangers.

Also the word Sodomite was used for the first time in the 14th century, so it can not possibly be the word used in the original bible.

 
Old 06-03-2013, 07:20 AM
 
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The sin of Sodom was being inhospitable to strangers.

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If by "inhospitable" you mean homosexual rape of strangers, yes they were.
 
Old 06-03-2013, 07:24 AM
 
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If by "inhospitable" you mean homosexual rape of strangers, yes they were.
No, I mean,
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"'Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
Ezekiel 16:49

No mention of homosexuals there.
OR do you not believe that God was telling the truth when he said this?
 
Old 06-03-2013, 07:26 AM
 
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Can you substantiate that with any reliable scholarship? Do you claim that the sodomites that traveled with (though quarantined from) Moses and the Israelites in the wilderness for forty years were pagan temple prostitutes? How could that have been possible?
Can you substantiate your statement above with any reliable scholarship?


The King James translators used the word 'sodomite' as a translation of the Hebrew word 'qadesh" which actually means male temple prostitute, cult prostitute, shrine prostitute etc

KJV Deut 23:17 "There shall be no w-h-o-re (6948) of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite (6945) of the sons of Israel".

However most modern translations use the correct translation of the Hebrew:

Deut 23:17: "None of the daughters of Israel shall be a cult prostitute (6948), nor shall any of the sons of Israel be a cult (6945) prostitute.

Look it up in a concordance. Here's a link:

Strongs 6945: qadesh - male temple prostitute

Strongs 6948: qĕdeshah - female temple prostitute.

It's not rocket science
 
Old 06-03-2013, 07:31 AM
 
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Homosexuals are called sodomites in the Bible, and were called that centuries after the notoriously evil and perverted cities of Sodom and Gommorah were destroyed by God for their immorality.
Evidence of your egregious lie in bold? Homosexuals are never called sodomites.
 
Old 06-03-2013, 07:34 AM
 
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Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13 were most likely referring to temple prostitution too:

Find Leviticus Chapter 18 here
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible...&v=1&t=YLT#top

After the command not to give your offspring over to the Canaanite god Molech in verse 21, (Molech is associated in several places in the OT with mentions of giving over sons and daughters to be male and female temple prostitutes), verse 22 probably refers to male temple prostitutes, then verse 23 to female temple prostitutes (who also had anal sex with men as well as with animals to worship the gods)

Look up references to Molech in the OT to see the connection to shrine prostitutes HERE: Blue Letter Bible - Search Results for NASB.

Read a brief summary of the historical and cultural context of ancient Canaan:
Canaanite culture and religion

Then see how it all goes together with:

Leviticus 18:21- not giving sons and daughters over to worship of Molech (to be temple prostitutes eg Deut 23:17)
Leviticus 18:22 -about males temple prostitutes (qadesh).
Leviticus 18:23 - about female temple prostitutes (qadesha)
Leviticus 18:24 -warning that other nations (Egypt and Canaan) became defiled by worshipping other gods so don't follow their practices.

There are more than half a dozen verses in the OT about not giving over sons and daughters to be temple or cult prostitutes, yet never again outside Leviticus does it state that men should not lie with a male and women should not lie with an animal.

eg Deut 23:17: "None of the daughters of Israel shall be a cult prostitute (6948), nor shall any of the sons of Israel be a cult (6945) prostitute.

Stongs 6945: qadesh - male temple prostitute

Strongs 6948: qĕdeshah - female temple prostitute.


(Strong's Number H6945 matches the Hebrew קָדֵשׁ (qadesh), which occurs 23 times in 9 verses in the Hebrew concordance)


In Leviticus 20:13 the context is also Molech worship.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Lev&c=20&t=NASB#2


To me, it's so obvious that Lev 18:22 and 20:13 are references to male temple prostitutes when you follow simple honest Biblical hermeneutics. That's not a blanket description of homosexuals or 21st century gay men

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Old 06-03-2013, 07:36 AM
 
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The man has right to his views...whether you agree with them or not...we still live in a free nation in spite of the left...
Amen. In reality, it's not about religious freedom for the liberals. It is about THEIR religion running the show.

Just as the Scriptures say, we are in a Spiritual battle. What we see on the outside is manifestation of what is on the inside.

They don't want a "Christian" nation, and to them it is an all out war. No religious tolerance.

While they want their gay marriage, they want to ENFORCE upon a man with His OWN spiritual convictions that He MUST by law serve them as customers.

Make no mistake theses people do not want peace unless they have FORCED you to see things under THEIR religious view.
 
Old 06-03-2013, 07:39 AM
 
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Homosexuals are called sodomites in the Bible, and were called that centuries after the notoriously evil and perverted cities of Sodom and Gommorah were destroyed by God for their immorality.
No. They are not.

As I already proved. The Hebrew word 'qadesh' meant male cult prostitute or male temple prostitute, not homosexual or sodomite.

Blue Letter Bible - Lexicon

Read a brief summary of the historical and cultural context of ancient Canaan:
Canaanite culture and religion
 
Old 06-03-2013, 07:44 AM
 
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Amen. In reality, it's not about religious freedom for the liberals. It is about THEIR religion running the show.

Just as the Scriptures say, we are in a Spiritual battle. What we see on the outside is manifestation of what is on the inside.

They don't want a "Christian" nation, and to them it is an all out war. No religious tolerance.

While they want their gay marriage, they want to ENFORCE upon a man with His OWN spiritual convictions that He MUST by law serve them as customers.

Make no mistake theses people do not want peace unless they have FORCED you to see things under THEIR religious view.
There are laws regarding businesses. No one FORCED the person to open a business. This person CHOSE to open a business, and they must follow ALL of the state and federal laws that regard businesses. If the person does not want to follow the laws that all other businesses have to follow, then they can CHOOSE to close their business. Your religion does not give you the right to violate the laws of a state.
 
Old 06-03-2013, 07:46 AM
 
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Homosexuals are called sodomites in the Bible, and were called that centuries after the notoriously evil and perverted cities of Sodom and Gommorah were destroyed by God for their immorality.
You can't even spell it correctly. It's Gomorrah.

Why don't you ask the people whose story it was?

"Lot was ready to risk his life and the honor of his daughters rather than transgress the laws of hospitality (ib. xix. 1-8)."
HOSPITALITY - JewishEncyclopedia.com



Ezekiel 16:49: "Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. They were haughty and did detestable things before me."
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