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I have a copy of the constitution of the United States because it was handed to me by one of the RWNJ's just as I was going in to vote. (didn't sway me either way)
The way I read it and this is JMO is that the 2nd amendment allows the states to form a militia and they are allowed to be armed and the Federal govt. can't take that right away.
No where does it say anything about individual right to own guns.
That being said I am a gun owner (one gun kept at home for personal protection) because the lax laws allow every bad guy in the land to purchase or steal unregistered guns from unscrupulous gun owners who don't have to register their guns.
I don't believe in CCW because it allows to many untrained gun carrying cowboys who think they are going to save the day.
that also means that police are not allowed to carry any sort of firearms either, according to what you just stated. after all it is only for the militia, and not the people as individuals or the police.
also, going by what you stated, where does it say that anyone has to register any arms at all?
That being said I am a gun owner (one gun kept at home for personal protection) because the lax laws allow every bad guy in the land to purchase or steal unregistered guns from unscrupulous gun owners who don't have to register their guns.
So now, laws allow criminals to steal guns?
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Originally Posted by PDD
I don't believe in CCW because it allows to many untrained gun carrying cowboys who think they are going to save the day.
Show me where this is? Show me who has done this? on this board or other boards...just show us all.
Are there idiots out there...yep, sure are....but those do not speak for all gun owners....
I have a copy of the constitution of the United States because it was handed to me by one of the RWNJ's just as I was going in to vote. (didn't sway me either way)
The way I read it and this is JMO is that the 2nd amendment allows the states to form a militia and they are allowed to be armed and the Federal govt. can't take that right away.
No where does it say anything about individual right to own guns.
That being said I am a gun owner (one gun kept at home for personal protection) because the lax laws allow every bad guy in the land to purchase or steal unregistered guns from unscrupulous gun owners who don't have to register their guns.
I don't believe in CCW because it allows to many untrained gun carrying cowboys who think they are going to save the day.
Better read the constitution again.
And then enroll in a middle school English class...
I don't know what you people are reading or who taught y'all to read but someone is ****ing up..
have you ever noticed how many people always seem to forget that little comma in the 2nd Amendment? it seperates the 1st part from the 2nd part.
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"The punctuation that emerged in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries was consistent in just two respects: it was prolific and often chaotic."
--- Alphabet to email: How written english evolved and where it's heading. Naomi S. Baron, Routledge, London and New York 2000. P. 185
"Excessive punctuation was common in the 18th century: at its worst it used commas with every subordinate clause and separable phrase."
--- 15 ed. V.29, The New Encyclopaedia Britannica 1997. P. 1051
"In the 18-19c, people tended to punctuate heavily, especially in their use of commas."
--- The Oxford Companion to the English Language. Oxford New York, Oxford University Press 1992. Tom McCarthur ed. P. 824
read up on the use of punctuation if you like from the 18-19 centuries.
Unless you can provide undeniable evidence that the founding fathers meant something other than how it is interpreted then you have no argument.
great, heller v dc says that the scotus said it is an individual right.
that good enough for you?
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It held that the Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess firearms and that the city’s total ban on handguns, as well as its requirement that firearms in the home be kept nonfunctional even when necessary for self-defense, violated that right. See id., at 395, 399–401. The Court of Appeals directed the District Court to enter summary judgment for respondent.
that also means that police are not allowed to carry any sort of firearms either, according to what you just stated. after all it is only for the militia, and not the people as individuals or the police.
also, going by what you stated, where does it say that anyone has to register any arms at all?
since you have no idea of what the word "regulate" means to a gunsmith, tell me. well regulated in the context of the 2nd amendment means something alot different than most people think it does.
I was replying to the guy that said it wasn't. Or if I was replying to you then I misunderstood your intent.
I'm well aware of Heller.
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