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Old 02-06-2013, 03:21 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Yes that's my point. We don't understand how gravity works very well. We do understand evolution for the most part. Thus it makes no sense that people accept gravity, but not evolution. Clearly because of what the association of "evolution" means in religious circles. People can easily assume gravity is real based on objects falling to the ground. Evolution is harder to grasp for the layman.

Gravity doesn't conflict with ancient middle eastern creation myths that "western civilization" clings to.
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Old 02-06-2013, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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That would depend on their location relative to Mecca.
It surely would do that, but I really wonder how many of the progs in this thread really know that. I used to see them praying facing south in Italy. Now they are generally pointed east but if they were in India they would generally be pointing north. I wonder if any of them move around a lot and get confused.
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Old 02-06-2013, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit
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To put it more bluntly: how can one intelligently discuss the development and history of the western civilization of which, like it or not, we are the inheritors, without experiencing the literary, musical, artistic, philosophical, and political movements inspired or heavily influenced by Christianity?
Or are we there already?
You can do that without making kids pray. There is nothing wrong learning what role Christianity had in world history if you're being objective. But public schools are not the place for religious indoctrination.
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Old 02-06-2013, 03:32 PM
 
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You can do that without making kids pray. There is nothing wrong learning what role Christianity had in world history if you're being objective. But public schools are not the place for religious indoctrination.
The proposals I've heard are for moments of silence, not for making kids pray.
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Old 02-06-2013, 03:37 PM
 
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Mandated prayer time to be added to the curriculum? Bible studies?

Students are currently allowed to practice their religion, and to pray in their free time. Government employees are not allowed to promote or encourage religion.
They want the Bible to be the text for geography, history, and science classes.
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Old 02-06-2013, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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They want to force their personal choice of religion down everyone elses' throats and they want the tax payers to pay for it all. How about they keep their religion to themselves and pay for it themselves?
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Old 02-06-2013, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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You can do that without making kids pray. There is nothing wrong learning what role Christianity had in world history if you're being objective. But public schools are not the place for religious indoctrination.
I don't recall saying that they were, nor did I make any claims regarding mandatory school prayers (for the record, I oppose it in public schools). What I did say was that it seems to have done me (and by extension, I would guess many others of my generation) no lasting harm, and instead inspired a lifelong love for learning and the path to a satisfying and relatively lucrative career. Those are positive outcomes -- the kind we want for all of our kids.

Whence this fear of Christian-inspired western literature and art? I think progressives are afraid that the evil Jehovah monster is hiding under their beds.

Very few kids will "catch" spirituality from reading the Song of Solomon, I assure you.
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Old 02-06-2013, 04:19 PM
 
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Do a study then......(as for anecdotal evidence, Libs have made a living of this)...... until then go around like a zombie glued to an I Phone like a good conformist
Dude, stop. No, I won't go do a study for something I don't even believe is true. I am not a zombie and :gasp: we don't one any smart phones. Stop assuming!
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Old 02-06-2013, 04:21 PM
 
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What is right and what is wrong? I am sure that the vast majority would agree on these things. You really are dense......
Maybe you need God, errr, "morals".
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Old 02-06-2013, 04:25 PM
 
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To put it more bluntly: how can one intelligently discuss the development and history of the western civilization of which, like it or not, we are the inheritors, without experiencing the literary, musical, artistic, philosophical, and political movements inspired or heavily influenced by Christianity?
And what of the parts of civilization that bequested literature, music, art, philosophy and political movements inspired or heavily influenced by Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, Sikhism, Hinduism, folk religions, Wicca, Rastafari, Baha'i Faith, etc?

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