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Old 02-09-2013, 08:28 AM
 
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I wouldn't be crowing about this if I were you, lol. It's a pretty good indicator that unless something major happens in the next four years, Hillary has a very good shot at being our next president. Obama won and he's never going to run another campaign again--I don't think he's all that concerned about his approval rating anymore. He can do what he wants, popular or not, and it can't hurt him. More people still approve of him vs. disapprove.
Hillary is looking like she's not long for this world. She looks like death warmed over. If she's faking her illnesses, she's doing a very good job looking the part.
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Old 02-09-2013, 08:29 AM
 
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A ton of Presidents have slogged their way through uneventful second terms, and someone as unpopular as this one (51% of the popular vote was all he could muster) will undoubtedly do likewise, and especially as more bad news regarding what's buried in ObamaCare that nobody at ABC, NBC or CBS bothered to inform the masses about, not to mention the forthcoming sequester, which Obama proposed and which is now coming back with a vengeance to bite him in the you-know-what!

Buyers remorse indeed.
All he could muster? When they finally had all the votes tallied, he won the popular vote by nearly 4%. On the other hand, the R's have lost the popular vote in the last 5 out of 6 elections. That pretty much corresponds to when they decided to walk off the deep end and start dumping the moderates.
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Old 02-09-2013, 08:29 AM
 
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Does this even matter? The big poll was taking in November.
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Old 02-09-2013, 08:42 AM
 
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Ummmmm....Obama won.

So...
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Old 02-09-2013, 10:29 AM
 
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Ummmmm....Obama won.

So...
So did his pal Morsi in Egypt. Populates change sometimes. Morsi is having all kinds of problems now even though he won an election.

This could almost have been written about Obama.

http://www.dailynewsegypt.com/2013/0...is-presidency/

The opposition was divided between skeptical observation and support of the new president based on limited options. During this phase, Morsi’s vision of his administration began to unfold and despite some bizarre choices and several blunders, Morsi was able to rule without acute opposition.

With the Muslim Brotherhood and the remaining Islamic forces, he was able to demobilize the street through co-opting some social movements, infiltrating others, and using false stability rhetoric. Meanwhile, institutional political forces were consumed with finding their place within the new network of power.

This first phase could have been used to consolidate Morsi’s power. In the absence of fierce opposition, with a relatively calm street, and by addressing basic grievances and opening up an inclusive platform, Morsi could have gained the support of diverse political factions. Instead, Morsi consolidated his power from above. Morsi embarked on his second phase in office with the constitutional declaration of November: a phase of open abuse of power and dictatorial practices.
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Old 02-09-2013, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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Not true at all --- there is absolutely no evidence of that.

It's possible, not too likely thoiugh that fewer Mexicans are coming but the other Central American nations are pouring over the border in much larger numbers than previously.
Actually, there is evidence of that:

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From 2005 to 2010, 1.4 million Mexicans came to the USA— down by more than half from the 3 million who came from 1995 to 2000. From 2005 to 2010 , the number of Mexicans who moved from the USA to Mexico rose to 1.4 million, roughly double the number who had done so 10 years before.



Passel says the data suggest that the return flow to Mexico probably surpassed the incoming flow in the last two years.

More Mexicans returning home, fewer immigrating to U.S.
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Old 02-09-2013, 10:42 AM
 
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why do we keep electing war mongers. in drone warfare Obama has passed bush already in push button killing and talk about buying drones with wild abandon. I agree we did not have good choices when we voted but why rush to being the most hated country in the world
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Old 02-09-2013, 12:43 PM
 
Location: USA
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Why does it matter what is approval ratings are? He's going to be the president for another 3 years regardless.
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Old 02-09-2013, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Jawjah
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So did his pal Morsi in Egypt. Populates change sometimes. Morsi is having all kinds of problems now even though he won an election.

This could almost have been written about Obama.

http://www.dailynewsegypt.com/2013/0...is-presidency/

The opposition was divided between skeptical observation and support of the new president based on limited options. During this phase, Morsi’s vision of his administration began to unfold and despite some bizarre choices and several blunders, Morsi was able to rule without acute opposition.

With the Muslim Brotherhood and the remaining Islamic forces, he was able to demobilize the street through co-opting some social movements, infiltrating others, and using false stability rhetoric. Meanwhile, institutional political forces were consumed with finding their place within the new network of power.

This first phase could have been used to consolidate Morsi’s power. In the absence of fierce opposition, with a relatively calm street, and by addressing basic grievances and opening up an inclusive platform, Morsi could have gained the support of diverse political factions. Instead, Morsi consolidated his power from above. Morsi embarked on his second phase in office with the constitutional declaration of November: a phase of open abuse of power and dictatorial practices.

Except ofcourse Morsi is actually a far-right radical and closely parallels the Republican Tea Party not the Democrat Party. As all polls indicate, the Tea Party is currently the most hated and least trusted political faction in the nation. So no, you wont get your wish of transforming America into a crazy lunatic right-wing fringe bastion of bible-thumping, immigrant and gay hating, science-and-education denying American Taliban-land.
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Old 02-09-2013, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Minnesota
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That wasn't the original Obama proposal. He had lots of much better ideas that the House treated as DOA. It has to be frustrating to have gerrymandering lock up government so it can't act, even though the guy in the White House obviously was the majority choice. Once again, MOST people responding to polls are totally blind to the system of government they live under. So they make wild guesses as to why things go the way they go. I can only make my own inferences about the meaning of popularity figures elicited from people who know nothing but the question they were asked. The schools try to train future citizens, but only a few in school actually pay attention and learn. It creates a situation where the value of the data for prediction is uncertain.
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