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Old 02-08-2013, 04:06 AM
 
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Our dear Marxist leader watching out for the little guy.

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Old 02-08-2013, 04:35 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles, California
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Our dear Marxist leader
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Old 02-08-2013, 06:43 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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The payroll tax reduction was designed to be TEMPORARY. It was. That means when it expires the rates go up to the previous rate that was raised when that Marxist leader Ronald Reagan was President.

But overall, the payroll tax is regressive. It is capped at a higher income, which means that lower earning workers pay it on every dollar of income while higher earning workers pay it only up to a certain income and those that earn their income from investments do not pay it at all.

I am glad that you do not advocate regressive taxation.
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Old 02-08-2013, 06:58 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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The only people so far not being adversely impacted by changes to "fix" the economy are those that are totally supported by government entitlement programs. I have an issue with that.
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Old 02-08-2013, 07:21 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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The only people so far not being adversely impacted by changes to "fix" the economy are those that are totally supported by government entitlement programs. I have an issue with that.
While that might sound right, it isn't. Most government entitlement programs are used by people who do work. Those that are totally supported by government entitlement programs are the elderly and the disabled, who are very much impacted by changes by Congress -- especially the GOP desire to slash Medicaid.
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Old 02-08-2013, 07:32 AM
 
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While that might sound right, it isn't. Most government entitlement programs are used by people who do work. Those that are totally supported by government entitlement programs are the elderly and the disabled, who are very much impacted by changes by Congress -- especially the GOP desire to slash Medicaid.
I don't think he meant SSN or medicare. He is pointing to welfare: food stamp, medicaid, subsidize housing, etc.

Welfare is not going away, there are just too much money to be made. For example, if you work in HPD in a position to assignment public housing, you can easy get 30k to 50k per public apt.
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Old 02-08-2013, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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The payroll tax reduction was designed to be TEMPORARY. It was. That means when it expires the rates go up to the previous rate that was raised when that Marxist leader Ronald Reagan was President.

But overall, the payroll tax is regressive. It is capped at a higher income, which means that lower earning workers pay it on every dollar of income while higher earning workers pay it only up to a certain income and those that earn their income from investments do not pay it at all.

I am glad that you do not advocate regressive taxation.
Just like the Bush tax cuts...
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Old 02-08-2013, 07:42 AM
 
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Just like the Bush tax cuts...
I know. The left somehow made it a point if the Bush tax cuts expired it's the same thing as "raising taxes".

It wasn't. The Bush tax cuts were temporarily with a sunset provision.

It's funny how one party spins tax cuts vs tax raises.
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Old 02-08-2013, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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I don't think he meant SSN or medicare. He is pointing to welfare: food stamp, medicaid, subsidize housing, etc.

Welfare is not going away, there are just too much money to be made. For example, if you work in HPD in a position to assignment public housing, you can easy get 30k to 50k per public apt.
He also was specific "totally supported by government entitlement programs." Those that use welfare: food stamp, medicaid, subsidize housing, etc. are overwhelmingly the working poor.
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Old 02-08-2013, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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I know. The left somehow made it a point if the Bush tax cuts expired it's the same thing as "raising taxes".

It wasn't. The Bush tax cuts were temporarily with a sunset provision.

It's funny how one party spins tax cuts vs tax raises.
Actually, it was the GOP making that argument.
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