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Old 02-10-2013, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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Well it seems they lifted the ban. But from the looks of things, I hope those folks have chains. Wowza, they got dumped on.
Chains? Do the northeastern States have something against studded tires?
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Old 02-10-2013, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Well, this IS America.

People are free to be idiotic if they so choose.

What is it to you??? Why are people dying to control other people?
Well you are more than welcome to be the idiot driving around in a snow storm for no reason.
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Old 02-10-2013, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Chains? Do the northeastern States have something against studded tires?
They aren't really needed out here and there aren't the same kind of hills like there are in the Northwest.
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Old 02-10-2013, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Soldotna
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Well you are more than welcome to be the idiot driving around in a snow storm for no reason.
I'm glad I have your permission...
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Old 02-10-2013, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I'm glad I have your permission...
Hey, no skin off my back when an idiot wants to risk their life in a storm, I just worry about the emergency crew that have to put themelves into danger because of an idiot.
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Old 02-10-2013, 11:02 AM
 
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Hey, no skin off my back when an idiot wants to risk their life in a storm, I just worry about the emergency crew that have to put themelves into danger because of an idiot.
They can always choose a different line of work.
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Old 02-10-2013, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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They can always choose a different line of work.
That doesn't change the fact that when an idiot does something stupid it endangers other people, thus the reason for the ban and closing down highways during the storm.
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Old 02-10-2013, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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That doesn't change the fact that when an idiot does something stupid it endangers other people, thus the reason for the ban and closing down highways during the storm.
So do not do anything stupid. When the roads are particularly icy, or caked with snow, you drive slower, keeping more distance between the vehicle in front you. Drive at whatever speed you feel comfortable and are in full control. Keep in mind that 4x4s do not stop any faster than any other vehicle, so do not get cocky just because one can blast through deep snow. I see a lot of 4x4s in the ditch, as I pass by in my FWD sedan.

Today's computerized anti-lock brakes are far superior to the hydraulic manual disc brakes of the past, but it is still a good idea to use one's brakes as little as possible. It also helps to use your brakes as little as possible to keep the driver behind you from overreacting every time your brake lights flash. For those with manual transmissions, using your clutch to slowly downshift can often times slow you down sufficiently enough where brakes are unnecessary - but only if you leave more room between you and the vehicle in front of you.

As long as the wheels are turning, you have a modicum of control. Once the wheels loose traction, turn into the spin and take your foot off the gas and the brake.

We get hurricane force winds (85+ mph) all the time during the winter. Even when it is not snowing winds of that speed pick up snow that has already fallen and blow it sideways creating blizzard conditions and packing the snow into drifts almost as hard as concrete. Yet 30,000 Alaskans make the daily commute from the Matanuska-Susitna Valley into Anchorage every day.

We do close sections of roads (not the entire State obviously) when there is a big accident involving injuries, or when that section of the road becomes impassible for whatever reason. It can be particularly difficult in Alaska where there is usually only one road leading in or out of a town. If the Glenn Highway gets shut down, there is no way to get to Anchorage from the Valley except by plane or boat.

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Old 02-10-2013, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Soldotna
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Hey, no skin off my back when an idiot wants to risk their life in a storm, I just worry about the emergency crew that have to put themelves into danger because of an idiot.
The solution is not banning travel.

The solution is making people responsible for themselves and not making emergency crews available to them.

People around the world do fine in blizzards. It is only my American brethren that rely excessively on the govt. Excepting Alaskans of course...

We don't all need mommy to wipe our butts...
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Old 02-10-2013, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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So do not do anything stupid. When the roads are particularly icy, or caked with snow, you drive slower, keeping more distance between the vehicle in front you. Drive at whatever speed you feel comfortable and are in full control. Keep in mind that 4x4s do not stop any faster than any other vehicle, so do not get cocky just because one can blast through deep snow. I see a lot of 4x4s in the ditch, as I pass by in my FWD sedan.

Today's computerized anti-lock brakes are far superior to the hydraulic manual disc brakes of the past, but it is still a good idea to use one's brakes as little as possible. It also helps to use your brakes as little as possible to keep the driver behind you from overreacting every time your brake lights flash. For those with manual transmissions, using your clutch to slowly downshift can often times slow you down sufficiently enough where brakes are unnecessary - but only if you leave more room between you and the vehicle in front of you.

As long as the wheels are turning, you have a modicum of control. Once the wheels loose traction, turn into the spin and take your foot off the gas and the brake.

We get hurricane force winds (85+ mph) all the time during the winter. Even when it is not snowing winds of that speed pick up snow that has already fallen and blow it sideways creating blizzard conditions and packing the snow into drifts almost as hard as concrete. Yet 30,000 Alaskans make the daily commute from the Matanuska-Susitna Valley into Anchorage every day.

We do close sections of roads (not the entire State obviously) when there is a big accident involving injuries, or when that section of the road becomes impassible for whatever reason. It can be particularly difficult in Alaska where there is usually only one road leading in or out of a town. If the Glenn Highway gets shut down, there is no way to get to Anchorage from the Valley except by plane or boat.
bet your state has closed sections much bigger than the state of Connecticut.
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