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The Depression lasted 10 years and no nations were holding us hostage and hurting us with sanctions. You call that holding us together? I call that stopping us from recovering.
Yes I do. You realize that the communist party was gaining ground because of the federal government doing nothing during that time frame? Secession talk was floating during this time frame, again, during other regions, not only the south.
FDR stepped in and did something. Did it end the depression? No. Did it make people think there was hope and keep us together as a nation until the war started, when we started selling munitions to Europe? Yep.
Like it or not, thats FDR's legacy. He held the nation together, and then was a great war time President.
There is a theory that FDR didn't spend enough to get out of the depression. Many countries were afflicted with the economic woes, but the ones the decoupled the currency from gold and the ones that invested heavily did best. A lot of German support for Hilter was due to his spending that greatly improved the German economy of the 30ies.
As long as you weren't a Jew or a woman, then your job was taken.
His spending was military spending. In the long run that doesn't help the economy. Like all great empires that use the military to expand beyond their means, they fail.
Hitler froze wages. While the strict state intervention into the economy, and the massive rearmament policy, almost led to full employment during the 1930s, real wages in Germany dropped by roughly 25%** between 1933 and 1938. Trade unions were abolished, as well as collective bargaining and the right to strike.
**that seems a bit much I guessed it was stagnant or just dropped a little.
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Yes I do. You realize that the communist party was gaining ground because of the federal government doing nothing during that time frame? Secession talk was floating during this time frame, again, during other regions, not only the south.
FDR stepped in and did something. Did it end the depression? No. Did it make people think there was hope and keep us together as a nation until the war started, when we started selling munitions to Europe? Yep.
Like it or not, thats FDR's legacy. He held the nation together, and then was a great war time President.
He did do a good job of keeping the "American Spirit" up during the war years. But quite a few Presidents could do that. I despise Obama, but he could have done it. Reagan too.
But that has really nothing to do with the economy. What would your perception of FDR be if we lost the war?
No you didn't. If the political circumstances are similar to the conditions today, and if we have plenty of people calling the unemployed and welfare dependent people lazy, then surely the unemployed people depending on charity were even lazier because they were even more dependent on charity and programs back then.
So how did this seemingly unemployed and dependant generation turn into the greatest generation?
I see what you're saying. I think young people can shock and amaze people when they are motivated or cornered and that hasn't changed. People really haven't changed much in 1000 years.
He did do a good job of keeping the "American Spirit" up during the war years. But quite a few Presidents could do that. I despise Obama, but he could have done it. Reagan too.
But that has really nothing to do with the economy. What would your perception of FDR be if we lost the war?
If we had lost the war there would have been no perception of FDR, the Germans and Japanese had plans for a North American Invasion, after Europe fell.
No, I'm talking about before the war, the first two terms of his Presidency. He was elected to a third term before we were drew into World War II, mainly on the promise of keeping us out of the war. Everything changed on December 7th, 1941. But the election year was 1940 for his third term. People must have thought he was doing something right.
If it's not terribly different, why did we need the NAZIs to turn the poorest and laziest generation into the greatest generation?
Funny. Apparently your parents did not grow up in the depression.
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