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Old 02-10-2013, 09:08 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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I have a question:

Are taxpayers actually paying for this show? To be more specific: is taxpayer money paying the performers or entertainers a fee? Or, is taxpayer money paying for the props or scenery in this show?

The taxpayers of Kansas fund the university, so yes.

Do you support taxpayer funds being used as such, and if so why?

Would you oppose taxpayers funds being used for a nativity display, and if you would, why?
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Old 02-10-2013, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Is this show being funded by tax dollars? And is there any law against having a drag show in a college theater? If not, I think you ARE all wrong on the situation. Try reading up on the laws regarding religious displays vs people in dresses dancing around, and then come back to discuss this again.
Kansas State University is a public institution.
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Old 02-10-2013, 09:12 PM
 
Location: Texas State Fair
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No taxes for nativity scene but for K-State Drag Queen show?

Well, so much for it not being a choice.
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Old 02-10-2013, 09:37 PM
 
Location: Planet earth
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No taxes for nativity scene but for K-State Drag Queen show?

Well, so much for it not being a choice.

I don't know what you are saying. Would you please clarify your comment?
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Old 02-10-2013, 10:27 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Look up Kansas State University Drag videos on YouTube, because I will not provide lazy people with links to perverted pornography. Look it up for yourself, then come back and tell me how this has ANYTHING to do with education. Tell me how it is in ANY way wholesome or in the public interest. Tell me how it is ANYTHING but a public display of perversion and perverted behavior. Then explain why that SICKNESS can be allowed in a publicly funded building, but a nativity scene cannot.
So when I was a little 5th grade boy who had to put on women's clothes to take part in a fashion show when it was my class's turn to give a show for the school, I was guilty of putting on sick, perverted porn?
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Old 02-10-2013, 10:31 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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And now you are on ignore. Goodbye.
I'm sorry some people on here make too much sense to you for your own comfort level, and so you have to put them on ignore.

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Old 02-12-2013, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Planet earth
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In reading through this article I am beginning to see a pattern:
http://downloads.frc.org/EF/EF06J60.pdf

It is in line with their agenda.
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Old 02-12-2013, 03:07 PM
 
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Maybe I'm all wrong on this situation...

To provide a venue for this show, one that is funded by tax dollars, and at the same time refuse to allow a nativity scene in the exact same venue, is beyond absurd in my book.
Yes you are wrong, state sponsored drag queen shows don't violate the 1st amendment.

Is it a waste of tax payers money, yes, is it a violation of the 1st, no
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Old 02-12-2013, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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The amazing thing about this show is this has nothing to do with how someone was born. Rather, this show is a perfect example of how some in society, more specifically the LGBT community demand that no judgement ever be placed on how they behave... even and especially in public.
Drag is not just gay men dressing up as girls. I know several hetero drag queens. If you are good there is a lot of money to be made.

Did you know the term DRAG came from stage notes (Dressed As A Girl) when females weren't allowed to perform on stage?
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Old 02-12-2013, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Taxpayer funds paid for the building and the electricity consumed where the "display", the "event", the sick perversion was held. They are the very same taxpayer funds that those who DENY a nativity scene claim are used when they scream, "Separation of Church and State!" BTW, that "Separation of Church and State" phrase exists nowhere in the Constitution.

Look up Kansas State University Drag videos on YouTube, because I will not provide lazy people with links to perverted pornography. Look it up for yourself, then come back and tell me how this has ANYTHING to do with education. Tell me how it is in ANY way wholesome or in the public interest. Tell me how it is ANYTHING but a public display of perversion and perverted behavior. Then explain why that SICKNESS can be allowed in a publicly funded building, but a nativity scene cannot.

Again I repeat my initial closing...
What am I not understanding. All of the performers were clothed, were they not?
So, where is the "pornography?"

And, if I recall correctly, student union buildings are generally funded by fees paid by the students attending the college or university. Oh, I've no doubt that some amount of taxpayer funds went towards maintaining the building, but, unless anyone can prove that they directly paid for the costumes, etc. for this show, I will maintain that it wasn't taxpayer funded.

As for the separation of church and state - do you know why churches don't pay taxes?

Last point, you do know that back in Shakespeare's time, men played all the parts, right? Would you consider men dressing up as Lady MacBeth or as Juliet "public displays of perversion and perverted behavior?"
Are people really so literal-minded that they cannot separate performance from life? Really?
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