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Old 03-03-2013, 01:48 PM
 
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"Right is right even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong even if everyone is doing it." -- St Augustine of Hippo

Hatred is always wrong, btw.

 
Old 03-03-2013, 03:16 PM
 
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All you can hope there is for incremental changes (i.e throw away California's ban) but the court won't override the other 30+ states with bans. We can have a bet, do you want to link paypals?
What makes you think the Court won't pull another Loving v. Virginia? At the very least, DOMA will be ruled unconstitutional, meaning all states will have to accept same-sex marriages performed in states that do allow it.
 
Old 03-03-2013, 03:39 PM
 
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The reason social benefits are extended to marriages are to encourage stability for having kids. If it was just about "2 people who love each other" those benefits would never be extended.

In the very name marriage, is the latin word for mother.
I guess you missed this earlier post:

According to the 2010 US census only about 50% of married couples were raising children.

Around a third of lesbian couples were raising children and almost a quarter of gay male couples were raising children

Only 23% of ALL households were married couples raising children,

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Old 03-03-2013, 03:41 PM
 
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Stop trolling. Most people in this country live in a state where same sex marriage is not recognized and that will be true for most americans throughout their life time.
You think 'most' American will only live another few years?

Wait... are you one of those people who think they are going to be 'Raptured'? Any day now?

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Old 03-03-2013, 04:19 PM
 
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Most people in this country live in a state where same sex marriage is not recognized and that will be true for most americans throughout their life time.
That will be true for about four more months. I suspect that the Supreme Court will be giving you a bad hair day in late June.

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Old 03-03-2013, 04:24 PM
 
Location: 9851 Meadowglen Lane, Apt 42, Houston Texas
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What makes you think the Court won't pull another Loving v. Virginia? At the very least, DOMA will be ruled unconstitutional, meaning all states will have to accept same-sex marriages performed in states that do allow it.
I think it's a 50-50 DOMA will be ruled unconstitutional but if it's, those states will creatively write legislation to nullify it and it will be kicked back to the supreme court. You have a long long road ahead.
 
Old 03-03-2013, 04:25 PM
 
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States in turn will respond with some legislation if this is the case. Until the Supreme Court rules that states have no right not to recognize gay marriage, this will be a long bitter road of tit for tat legislation.
Perhaps you better read some of the briefs filed in the cases, particularly the brief that was filed on Friday by the Solicitor General on behalf of the United States. The solicitor's briefs are given great weight by the Court. If the Court rules that the Cali proposition violates the Equal Protection Clause, then no state will be able to enact legislation to ban gay marriage; at least, no state will be able to make the showing required under the Clause to justify discrimination against gays and gay marriage. Educate yourself before you make ridiculous statements.
 
Old 03-03-2013, 04:25 PM
 
Location: 9851 Meadowglen Lane, Apt 42, Houston Texas
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You think 'most' American will only live another few years?

Wait... are you one of those people who think they are going to be 'Raptured'? Any day now?
I'm not a Christian.
 
Old 03-03-2013, 04:26 PM
 
Location: 9851 Meadowglen Lane, Apt 42, Houston Texas
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Perhaps you better read some of the briefs filed in the cases, particularly the brief that was filed on Friday by the Solicitor General on behalf of the United States. The solicitor's briefs are given great weight by the Court. If the Court rules that the Cali proposition violates the Equal Protection Clause, then no state will be able to enact legislation to ban gay marriage; at least, no state will be able to make the showing required under the Clause to justify discrimination against gays and gay marriage. Educate yourself before you make ridiculous statements.
Like I said, if you want to bet I'm game. 500$, let's link paypal if you're so confident.
 
Old 03-03-2013, 04:27 PM
 
Location: 9851 Meadowglen Lane, Apt 42, Houston Texas
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Hell, you're in Houston. We can do that in person.
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