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Old 02-10-2013, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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Why because one incidence which was supervised locally got out of hand and you want to impeach the president? Meanwhile the atrocities that were commited by the previous adminstration is ignored, but I'm like alot of normal and rational people are suppose to pretend like nothing like this happened before 2008 As far as "evidence" I have seen it whenever I go to work and see veterans all jacked up because of multiple tours to a place that they never should have gone in the first place. How about the "evidence" that a company like haliburton was financially strapped until dick "darth vader" cheney manipulated a no-bid contract with the military and provided less than what they should have and were responsible for electrical shower deaths and other injuries due to faulty materials. This is including the "evidence" that they make millions a year from Dubai limiting their taxes while milking the government in no-bid contracts
First I didn't agree with either war.... That said, do you really think with a democratic controlled house and senate that if there were an impeachable offense committed that there would not have been articles of impeachment brought? Fact is there were none. One incident? This one incident was well documented and the Obama administration blocked evidence from being seen. Doesn't that bother you? Doesn't it bother you that this administration knowingly allowed weapons to cross our borders illegally without the knowledge or consent of the mexican government? Are the lives of mexican citizens so invaluable to you that you find it acceptable for them to be slaughtered in the streets of their own country by weapons that were virtually hand delivered by our own justice department? How would you like to meet the Parents of the young border patrol agent that was killed and tell them how what happened was just ONE incident and should be ignored? Unbelieveable....
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Old 02-10-2013, 06:53 PM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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First I didn't agree with either war.... That said, do you really think with a democratic controlled house and senate that if there were an impeachable offense committed that there would not have been articles of impeachment brought? Fact is there were none. One incident? This one incident was well documented and the Obama administration blocked evidence from being seen. Doesn't that bother you? Doesn't it bother you that this administration knowingly allowed weapons to cross our borders illegally without the knowledge or consent of the mexican government? Are the lives of mexican citizens so invaluable to you that you find it acceptable for them to be slaughtered in the streets of their own country by weapons that were virtually hand delivered by our own justice department? How would you like to meet the Parents of the young border patrol agent that was killed and tell them how what happened was just ONE incident and should be ignored? Unbelieveable....
So if they think that those were not impeachable offenses why would this this be? No it does not bother me, especially if it was something backed by the CIA, btw are you aware of how many embassies that were attacked under bush? Was there as much concern then as it supposely now?
Krauthammer Whitewashes Bush's History To Bash Obama Over Embassy ...
Did anyone besides Rick "Freeway" Ross go to jail when the neighborhoods of L.A were flooded by Reagen and North's cheap cocaine? How many lives were lost in the crack epidemic? Have you ever been in a hospital where a crack addicted baby is born? Screw that, have you ever sat down a talked to a veteran after 4-5 consective tours in Iraq or one that was involved in a car bomb? Well I have! bush, rummey and cheney should all burn in hell for their push for torture and profiteering off of a war they they also lied to promote!
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Old 02-10-2013, 06:56 PM
 
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This is not a serious thread. It is a bridge to nowhere.
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Old 02-10-2013, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Va. Beach
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He has the protection of Harry Reid in the Senate who would never let it come to the floor of the Senate.... Reid in my mind is a co-conspirator.
Reid doesn't have a choice.

Impeached, simply means charged, and that takes place in the House of Representatives.

The senate upon charges, then conducts the trial.
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Old 02-10-2013, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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So if they think that those were not impeachable offenses why would this this be? No it does not bother me, especially if it was something backed by the CIA, btw are you aware of how many embassies that were attacked under bush? Was there as much concern then as it supposely now?
Krauthammer Whitewashes Bush's History To Bash Obama Over Embassy ...
Did anyone besides Rick "Freeway" Ross go to jail when the neighborhoods of L.A were flooded by Reagen and North's cheap cocaine? How many lives were lost in the crack epidemic? Have you ever been in a hospital where a crack addicted baby is born? Screw that, have you ever sat down a talked to a veteran after 4-5 consective tours in Iraq or one that was involved in a car bomb? Well I have! bush, rummey and cheney should all burn in hell for their push for torture and profiteering off of a war they they also lied to promote!

As should John F. Kennedy and Lyndon Baines Johnson for their actions 40 years ago that left me in the state that myself and countless other veterans are in.... That does NOT diminish what this administration has done. I often wonder how your ilk sleep at night when everything is about "your party" and not actually about the people. How do you do it? Go confront Brian Terrys parents and tell them what you take to sleep with your conscious.. It might help them sleep with their pain...
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Old 02-10-2013, 07:14 PM
 
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I always wonder about the alternate reality people are living in when they post things like this thread. It's like they're not even in the same country, or on the same planet as the rest of us.
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Old 02-10-2013, 07:35 PM
 
Location: The Brat Stop
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Stupidest Thread - who's with me????
I'll second that.
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Old 02-10-2013, 07:37 PM
 
Location: The Brat Stop
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What part of "czars that require but didn't get Senate approval" did you have trouble understanding?
None. Posted are Obama's appointments too, and some of his have congressional approval too, this is probably shocking to you and others.

The following is FactCheck.org’s count of Obama administration positions whose holders were
dubbed “czars” in one or more news articles. In some cases, the same “czar” nickname (e.g.
“cybersecurity czar”) was applied to more than one job title. In these cases we have counted the
two separate positions as two “czars.” In some cases, we could find no use of the term “czar”
for the position except in news articles about the preponderance of czars in the Obama
administration. We did not count these cases. Senate-confirmed positions are marked with a star.
Non-president-appointed positions are marked with a dagger
1. Afghanistan-Pakistan Czar (Special representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan) –
Richard Holbrooke
2. AIDS Czar (Director, Office of National AIDS Policy) – Jeffrey Crowley
3. Auto Recovery Czar (Director of recovery for auto communities and workers) – Ed Montgomery
4. †Border Czar (Special representative for border affairs, Department of Homeland
Security) – Alan Bersin
5. *California Water Czar (Deputy interior secretary) – David Hayes
6. Car Czar (Advisor for the U.S. auto sector, United States Treasury) – Steven Rattner
7. †Climate Czar (Special envoy for climate change, Department of State) – Todd Stern
8. Counterterrorism Czar/Homeland Security Czar (Assistant to the president for homeland security and counterterrorism) – John Brennan
9. Diversity Czar (Chief Diversity Officer, Federal Communications Commission) – Mark
Lloyd
10. †Domestic Violence Czar (Advisor to the president and the vice president on domestic violence and sexual assault issues) – Lynn Rosenthal
11. *Drug Czar (Director, Office of National Drug Control Policy) – R. Gil Kerlikowske
12. Economics Czar (Director, National Economic Council) – Lawrence Summers
13. Energy Czar (Director, White House Office of Energy and Climate Change Policy) –
Carol Browner
14. *Government Performance Czar (Chief performance officer) – Jeffrey Zients
15. †Great Lakes Czar (Special advisor overseeing the Great Lakes project, Environmental Protection Agency) – Cameron Davis
16. Green Jobs Czar (Special adviser for green jobs, enterprise and innovation, White House
Council on Environmental Quality) – Van Jones
17. †Guantanamo Closure Czar (Special envoy to oversee the closure of Guantanamo Bay
detention center, Department of State) – Daniel Fried
18. Health Czar (Director, White House Office of Health Reform) – Nancy-Ann DeParle 19. *Intelligence Czar (Director of national intelligence) – Dennis Blair
20. Iran Czar (Special advisor for the Persian Gulf and Southwest Asia) – Dennis Ross
21. Manufacturing Czar (Senior Counselor for Manufacturing Policy) – Ron Bloom
22. Mideast Czar (Special envoy for Middle East peace) – George Mitchell
23. Pay Czar (Special master for TARP executive compensation) – Kenneth Feinberg
24. *Regulatory Czar (Administrator, White House Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs) – Cass Sunstein
25. *Science Czar (Director, White House Office of Science and Technology Policy) – John
Holdren
26. Stimulus Accountability Czar (Chairman, Recovery Act Transparency and
Accountability Board) – Earl Devaney
27. *TARP Czar (Assistant secretary for financial stability, Treasury Department) – Herb Allison
28. *Technology Czar/Infotech Czar (Chief information officer) – Vivek Kundra
29. Technology Czar (Chief technology officer) – Aneesh Chopra
30. Urban Affairs Czar (Director of Urban Affairs) – Adolfo Carrion
31. *Weapons Czar (Undersecretary for acquisition, technology and logistics, Department of Defense) – Ashton Carter
32. Weapons of Mass Destruction Czar (White House coordinator for weapons of mass destruction, proliferation and terrorism) – Gary Samore

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You do know that the office of faith based czar was created by Bush right? And that position does NOT require Senate confirmation
You want to discuss appointments, or impeachment?

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A presidential appointment is one to a position in the judicial branch, the presidential Cabinet, or in any federal agency within the behemoth that is our bureaucracy. Many appointees undergo a nomination process where they are either confirmed or rejected by the United State Senate. There are several thousand other appointments to other positions as members of boards and heads of agencies which do not require confirmation. Those which require confirmation by the Senate are designated in the Constitution or in legislation which establishes the position involved. Military commissions require confirmation, as well.

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Old 02-10-2013, 07:46 PM
 
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Typical left , disagee with the premise of the thread by attacking the thead instead of discussing the issue.
There's plenty of replies gently explaining, in simple terms, why that WND piece is so much worthless dreck. Care to defend your mustachioed crusader Corsi?
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Old 02-10-2013, 07:47 PM
 
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This is not a serious thread. It is a bridge to nowhere.
Corsi probably has a new book out.
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